• edric
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    3110 months ago

    Dishsoap isn’t exactly soft on hands. It dries them out because it removes the oil on your skin. My wife’s fingers get dry and crack, so we use the “natural”/“organic” variants that are more gentle.

      • edric
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        610 months ago

        No particular brand, but you can find them in specialty stores (i.e. Natural Grocers). If your local grocery has an “organic” isle, there’s a chance they have dishsoap there too. They usually have stuff on their labels like “No parabens, sulfates, fragrances, etc.”

    • @[email protected]
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      410 months ago

      I just use gloves to wash dishes. I don’t like getting my hands ‘dirty’ with food and oil stuff, even if I am gonna be washing them once I’m done.

    • @cheese_greaterOP
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      110 months ago

      Its funny cuz I always buy the Baby Stuff/sensitivr skin but I never have issues with dry skin. I think I have naturally “well-lubricated” skin lol

  • @[email protected]
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    10 months ago

    I’m guessing both terms are vague enough, that companies can legally just lie.

    It’s only a “liable untruth” if someone can prove it’s not true in court.

  • Kalash
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    Soap consinst of molecules that have two distinct ends. One loves to bond with water, the other side is repelled by water but attracked to fatty stuff like grease.

    This way the soap can basically connect fatty stuff on one end and to water on the other end, which allows to wash away the fatty stuff with water (where usually water would be repelled by fats and oils).

    Since your skin itself is neither made of water nor fat, it’s mostly unaffected.

    • @cheese_greaterOP
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      310 months ago

      Thanks for that, is dishsoap still unwise or less preferable to use than regular handsoap?

      • @NOT_RICK
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        610 months ago

        I have eczema and dish soap wrecks my hands. Granted, all soap makes them scaly but dish soap is worse. Lots of moisturizing and sometimes steroids are the only thing that helps.

          • @NOT_RICK
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            410 months ago

            Not to my knowledge. You want a highly concentrated soap for dishes so you can get rid of the tough grime. I usually wear gloves when I do dishes and in the event I don’t wear them I’m drying them really well then putting cerave on my hands.

            • @cheese_greaterOP
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              110 months ago

              I don’t mind scrubbing a bit harder if its a littles less efficacious in exchange for softer ingredients

              • @RBWells
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                210 months ago

                Soaking dishes in a tub of water with some soap will do more than anything to help make the dishes easier to clean.

                Except a dishwasher - we have a dishwasher now and you can literally put dirty dishes in and get clean ones out and it uses less power than heating water to wash by hand, uses less water than hand washing dishes too.

                But when I had to wash by hand - filling the sink with hot soapy water then just dumping all the dishes in during the day, washing in the evening, was the least effort, best result and really the least water since you can rinse them all at once.

                • @spittingimage
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                  we have a dishwasher now and you can literally put dirty dishes in and get clean ones out

                  But if you do that, you’ll eventually have to clean rotting food out of the trap. Trust me that this is not a job you want.

                • @cheese_greaterOP
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                  110 months ago

                  Besides just quickly cleaning up like right after, right? That is something I’ve had to learn the hard way and really drill in as the only accetable practice for moi

          • @jaybone
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            210 months ago

            Have you tried like a baby shampoo or baby bubble bath maybe? Or even dove bars for sensitive skin?

          • MedicsOfAnarchy
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            210 months ago

            Fantastic idea! Make those layabout toddlers earn their keep, and your hands stay soft. Win-win!

            • @cheese_greaterOP
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              110 months ago

              Actually yeah. Kids ambitions to help out at that age seem to only be bound at the upper limit by their physical capabillity.

      • Kalash
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        310 months ago

        I don’t think it makes much of a difference, I use it all the time to wash my hands. Then again, I don’t have sensitive skin, so I wouldn’t know.

  • @[email protected]
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    It turns out that the methods used to make soap have gotten more efficient at using up all the base products. You really need sodium hydroxide (lye) and a fat, usually vegetable, but can be animal. You combine and cook it until a chemical reaction called saponification completes, and you have soap. Modern soap is going to have a lot more than just that in it (like color, scent, surfactants, etc.), but that’s the basics.

    Back in the day, however, soap was shipped with free lye still floating in it. This is why you’ve always been told not to use soap on cast iron. It’s also going to make your hands very dry. New soap doesn’t have free lye floating around so it’s not so hard on your hands and you CAN actually use it on cast iron, believe it or not.

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    Saponification. It also reacts to oil secreted by your skin as well, but your hands aren’t oil. The target chemicals are triglycerides (I think).

    Not a chemist, but this reminded me of grade 9 chemistry equations. And I was pretty bad at it.

  • 👍Maximum Derek👍
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    710 months ago

    I don’t know about you, but my hands aren’t made of grease.

    But to answer your question (in terms of D&D 5e subclasses) I think dish soap would be the work of the Clockwork Soul Sorcerers.

  • @[email protected]
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    610 months ago

    When Palmolive made that claim, it was comparing its product to past cleaning agents. I was curious about what people used to use, so I looked it up. Seems that abrasives (sand, plant material, ashes) were common, and soap. Like, OG soap, made by combining oils with a chemical base.

    Interestingly, the ingredients to Dawn dish detergent do not include soap. It contains surfactants (chemicals which break surface tension and in effect make water “wetter”), and detergents. Detergents emulsify oil in water. Water molecules are polar, they have a positive charge at one end, and negative at the other. Fats and oils are non-polar, which is why they don’t mix with water. Detergents are molecules with a polar component attached to a non-polar component. They attach to and surround non-polar molecules, and make them polar/hydrophilic/able to dissolve in water.

    Dish detergent will still remove oils from your skin, but at least it’s a lot better than abrasives and corrosive chemicals.

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    10 months ago

    What brand is this? Not the ones I’ve used. They strip the oil right out of my hands. Have to use dish gloves.