person in a fem outfit & haircut with facial hair -> most likely some flavour of non binary
this really isn’t hard to understand when you know nonbinary people exist. Going “she has a moustache?” as if they are 10 years behind on any news regarding queer people indeed comes across as rather ignorant. Though it’s not outright bigotry which is good
Devil’s advocate: not everyone has the same context as you. Perhaps this commenter was one of today’s lucky 10,000.
I think jumping to the conclusion that the comment and the uovote/down vote state of any given community is hostile is not really a healthy state of mind to be in.
Unfortunately - and particularly in online discourse - it’s difficult to determine in the first instance whether someone is authentic or sealioning (that is, trying to start a “debate” in bad faith). In a trans-positive community with frequent memes on gender fluidity, it’s not unreasonable to assume that someone posing a question like this is being deliberately detrimental.
yeah no i agree. I was explaining that from a perspective of someone who’s been online in the Anglo-sphere for a quite a while. The perspective of most people who give out upvotes/down votes.
Relatively to someone like me, that comment is ignorant.
and I know that word has negative connotations, but we all were all ignorant about most things at some point, every one of us is relatively ignorant about some things all the time.
I mostly abstained from personal commentary and just gave an explanation. But I did specifically point out that that person didn’t start from a position of bigotry - which is good, and to me it means that they’re just new to the topic and genuinely confused by something unexpected
edit: reading my comment again i did come off as pretty annoyed, apologies for that, that wasn’t my intention, though i do have to say, having to explain that queer people exist is getting pretty tiring
Why is this ignorant?
person in a fem outfit & haircut with facial hair -> most likely some flavour of non binary
this really isn’t hard to understand when you know nonbinary people exist. Going “she has a moustache?” as if they are 10 years behind on any news regarding queer people indeed comes across as rather ignorant. Though it’s not outright bigotry which is good
I mean, at the same time, I would say the vast majority of people have never seen a woman in person with a moustache.
Devil’s advocate: not everyone has the same context as you. Perhaps this commenter was one of today’s lucky 10,000.
I think jumping to the conclusion that the comment and the uovote/down vote state of any given community is hostile is not really a healthy state of mind to be in.
Unfortunately - and particularly in online discourse - it’s difficult to determine in the first instance whether someone is authentic or sealioning (that is, trying to start a “debate” in bad faith). In a trans-positive community with frequent memes on gender fluidity, it’s not unreasonable to assume that someone posing a question like this is being deliberately detrimental.
yeah no i agree. I was explaining that from a perspective of someone who’s been online in the Anglo-sphere for a quite a while. The perspective of most people who give out upvotes/down votes.
Relatively to someone like me, that comment is ignorant.
and I know that word has negative connotations, but we all were all ignorant about most things at some point, every one of us is relatively ignorant about some things all the time.
I mostly abstained from personal commentary and just gave an explanation. But I did specifically point out that that person didn’t start from a position of bigotry - which is good, and to me it means that they’re just new to the topic and genuinely confused by something unexpected
edit: reading my comment again i did come off as pretty annoyed, apologies for that, that wasn’t my intention, though i do have to say, having to explain that queer people exist is getting pretty tiring