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Reminder that if the media is cool with putting the victim’s name all over, then you should be cool with the officer’s name all over.
Innocent until proven guilty am I right?
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There are a lot of things I hate about the Bible as an atheist, but one thing I really wish would be implemented is a double measured punishment for positions of authority. Every crime a police officer is found guilty of should be doubled, every time and without exception. They should always be aware of the fact that if they screw up it will be a much bigger deal for them.
What do you expect in DeSatan’s state.
There’s a lot of fucking sense in the bible sometimes, in a lot of cases the problem is it’s good fucking sense for a tribe of nomadic folk 2500 years ago and then it’s been filtered through various cults rewriting and reinterpreting it to suit their needs and viewpoints in the intervening time. The US constitution seems to be on the same sort of track.
Is that double punishment thing in the bible? I couldn’t agree more. It’s the most heinous type of crime imo.
Fuck the bible but this is already a thing in the military and it should be a thing in the police too since they are just the occupying military
Which is why the state never will.
You can though; like the panthers, but learn the lesson from their failure: don’t get seen.
Officers need a UCMJ similar to the military.
If rhey insist on military terms and tactics, a military court martial is only fair. Especially the parts about force and civilians.
Not only that, but crimes specific to police officers just like soldier specific crimes. Hold them to a higher standard, and when that power is abused only the most brutal of punishments.
Every time. Y’all forget THE essential fact every time this comes up: cops are enforcers for the rich only, and unless something they do affects the rich, nothing will change. They’re not military, they’re barely smarter than a glue-sniffing mutt and twice as psychotic. 🤦🏽♂️
I was a military kid. So… just like the military?
Their description might’ve been a bit charitable.
I didn’t forget it, but it’s fun to have dreams.
I had a dreeeam, I had a dreeeam, I just want to see the glowing lanterns gleeeam!
They have names and addresses. That’s the only accountability they will ever see.
Or an anti cop insurgency.
I live in Los Angeles, where the cops keep getting caught bringing in the big moral panic drug of the day and slaughtering people and being literal Nazi street gangs.
And I’m just putting the name “people persecuted by police” out there; somebody please use it, and please live up to it.
While an anti cop uprising is likely inevitable, I’m not confident that it actually makes anything change at this point.
‘Revolutions in reverse’; its basically warm fuzzy more broadly effective thing based on ‘propaganda of the deed’
And rules of engagement while we’re at it.
How is it that a soldier sent into literal combat against people he knows are armed and intend to kill them has to be more careful not to shoot someone than a police officer responding to a call about a black person using the sidewalk?
I was deployed, and our rules of engagement was more strict than police officers. We had to keep it on us at all times (exception being for PT and shower time). There were very specific situations about when and where we could use our weapons.
What is ridiculous is “I was a scared little bitch” was not a reason to use force. Police can get away with killing civilians, unarmed civilians, because “I was scared”. If we did that, our ass would be in Leavenworth. Cops are fucking pathetic.
A soldier who everyone knows was ordered ‘shoot to kill’, and people think its weird when they’re not.
They even get multiple months of training!
Nah. They need the wall. They fought basic accountability too hard, clearly its not gonna happen. Accept that and move on to a more realistic solution.
Too bad we’re headed in the exact opposite direction…
Conservatives like my father are being brainwashed to believe the cops have TOO MANY restrictions to “properly do their jobs.”
They literally want LESS accountability for police… It’s absolutely absurd and because of that I’m pretty sure that’s what we’ll end up with. We don’t get to have nice things in this timeline.
Idk I mean it would be fine if the consequences that everyone else has to face they have to too.
I hope Mr. Riley is found not guilty. And that all three officers who participated in this dangerous fraud are charged and punished appropriately. Mr. Riley deserves compensation for harm done. Tallahassee, you can do better. smh.
Don’t worry. Internal affairs with complete an investigation and find that the officers not only did nothing wrong but are being commended and recommended for promotion!
After their paid vacation
Possibly a paid transfer funded by taxpayers.
Any fucking municipality that allows this needs to swing.
How about we compromise. No punishment for the officers, and Mr Riley gets 12 months in jail, but he gets out 3 months early if he admits he was wrong and promised not to sue.
Unfortunately that compensation will come from florida taxpayers instead of the criminal cops themselves.
Nothing will change until the cops have to pay their own damages.
How can you hope that? Are you high?
Theres one way a cop will ever be held accountable.
I hope for justice, and equality under the law. Are we there? No. And my activism focuses on what we need, deserve, and want. Why do you not? Do you advocate apathy? Do you have another suggestion?
Laws aren’t for justice. I think if they’re ever in the same room, justice never showed up and the wall has some new stains.
Even if you don’t believe this, a system so thoroughly, from its original seed to every major input its had,made from injustice and tyranny for injustice and tyranny, is not going to provide you with justice.
You need to start fresh from the ground up. Maybe its possible to create a mostly-just system of laws; i don’t think it is, but I’m down to be proven wrong. I do know its impossible to salvage the ones we have, and if you wanted to make a serious attempt, you’d start from scratch.
I think we use laws because they’re a tool for exercising power, and we, growing up in strict hierarchalist societies, confuse power with justice. They’re opposites. Laws are a tool for systematizing and flattening morality so its legible to a top down hierarchy that doesn’t have time/bandwidth to fully pay attention, and a tool to divide a populace so you can justify picking out people you find inconvenient, or increasing power exercised against the people.
I think you find justice where laws don’t excuse people from thought compassion and consideration, put anyone above anyone else, or justify doing awful shit, and I think a lot of the work towards justice and equality is going to be emotionally messy and unpleasant til we get there.
When you know there will be no consequences, it’s easier to be blatant with your corruption. The officer should be fired, arrested for falsifying official documents, and the chief of police should be fired.
And they should also have to buy Riley a new bottle of cognac. The good stuff, too
How you pour out the cognac and then call it shit vodka?
It’s like that graphic of how cops see things and everything is a gun, but it’s how cops see liquor and everything is vodka
Does no one else find it odd that some Boy Scout badges take more experience than a police badge does?
We like our cops to be dumb. Less of a chance for them to realize how shitty they are.
The stupid also won’t know that they’re participating in the wrong side of the class war.
Most of them I think.
Or they did, before the boy scouts org was held accountable for all the kids they raped. So another way they’re better than cops.
As a Life Scout that went to the national Jamboree more than once, I was shocked by those stories. I guess I lucked out and had scout masters that I thought were boring, but they were actually some of the good ones.
I thought they were boring because they followed all the rules all the time. I was a stupid kid.
It’s not a kind world for children. We all have either stories like that, or stories like the ones that shocked you. Sometimes both.
Theres one way to fire a cop, and you gotta do it yourself.
If it helps; they’re really bad at solving these things.
They’re good at solving them, just find a non white person a make it work.
They’re actually really bad at it. Over 70% of murder cases in California, and over 50% of the murder cases in the US go unsolved, and that’s including the ones they pinned on some random black/brown guy.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high
https://www.ppic.org/blog/a-large-proportion-of-crime-goes-unsolved-in-california/
Damn. I always assumed anyone with a bachelor’s degree could get away with murder. It seems anyone that can read Green Eggs and Ham can get away with murder.
What are the demographics of the victims in the unsolved cases tho?
Approximately 0% of the victims of unsolved murders are cops, I assume.
Police are a gang. You kill one, they will make sure to find you because they need revenge.
No clue, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that there’s a disproportionate percentage of non-white unsolved cases
*racism FTFY
Cops: " THE PUBLIC IS SO HOSTILE TO US, WE CANT COMPREHEND WHY THEY HATE US NOBLE SAVIORS OF JUSTICE SO MUCH!"
Also Cops:" I’ll just casually destroy this persons property and frame them for a crime to fill my quota, and maybe…if he gets upset over it, I’ll have an excuse to murder him! teehee! "
this person’s* property
Thank you, it’s no tits
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Huh, so when is Kiersten Oliver’s trial?
6 months paid vacation and a transfer to a different district where she commence committing more crimes. Same strategy as the church has with pedophiles. Wonder why this is so rampant when the punishment is a reward.
Man, I hate this. I haven’t checked the articles, but you just know guilty cop isn’t named anywhere while the innocent driver has his name plastered everywhere.
It’s great that people here are at least naming these terrible people.
That’s up to us.
I vote she doesn’t get one, but I’m not near Florida, so my vote probably doesn’t count. Not that kind of democracy.
Do to the video evidence, I give the jury a 50/50 chance of convicting, far higher than normal!
ACAB
Whatever happened to “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear?”… This happened, fucking corrupt cops
The guy that said that died in the Fuhrerbunker.
See why you phrased that now, seems saying the source you get auto deleted in this sub for some reason
Censorship is a plague
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Saw this two posts below: https://lemmy.world/post/13888155
She should stick to colonoscopy promotion.
Lol Tallahassee PD is going full “shoot the messenger and the messenger’s dog” about this. Blithering on about how releasing the video is wrong and now the dude they tried to frame can’t get a fair trial because people saw the video, which they were totally gonna show after the trial (trust me, bro. bro you gotta trust me. we can’t have people knowing what happened until after he’s found guilty and we get to take a bunch of his money by force.) but now everyone is gonna be prejudiced in favor of the defendant which violates his rights and that part of the video where she clearly opens a sealed container, dumps it out, throws it back into the car and then arrests him for open container was taken out of context.
It hurts to think about how many of these cases they haven’t caught.
After I saw that one of the officer palming a baggy and acting like they found it I thought: how could I possibly protect myself when they’re running a search like this? Scary shit.
The only way is hidden cameras in your car that constantly backup to the cloud via lte. Which if that sounds stupid it’s because it is. You shouldn’t have to even consider shit like that let alone do it
99% of people charged with DWI, plead guilty or may settle down for a lesser charge. Fighting a case like that is a lot of money ($5k-$10k), your average citizen probably doesn’t have a emergency fund. It’s horrible, and not only that, the cop who charges the person with a DWI gets a nice bonus at the end of the year. You can’t assure yourself that you’ll be in the clear if you’re sober; they might have insiders who mess around with your test results and make it look like you had alcohol/drugs in your system.
Yeah, maybe we violently need to get rid of police?
I thought this is what body cams were for, or was it just for watching with your buddies during weekends while eating popcorn
body cams are for police highlight reels and for taking clips of their murders home to masturbate furiously too. Not for the public good, or justice.
Which is why it often takes years to weasel the fucking video out of their hands when it shows them doing wrong (and yet the videos are almost always immediately released when they think they are in the right…), like with that abduction victim teenage girl a few years ago who the police blasted the fuck out, from behind, despite her following all instructions.
That’s what the police think surveillance video is for, at least. When they’re done assaulting innocent old women with dementia they sit around with their buddies, watch the video and laugh and laugh. I assumed that when the officer said “wait for the pop” he was talking about the audible sound of him breaking this 73 year old dementia patient’s arm over $13 in goods from Walmart, but the way they’re gathered around the screen celebrating the assault, maybe he did mean popcorn.
"By showing the video where our corrupt officer destroyed property and framed a man, you have ruined our attempt to imprison an innocent man who didnt deserve it.
How dare you, public, for foisting this terrible injustice upon all of law enforcement!"
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They weren’t. The article is pretty clear that the sealed bottle was in Riley’s car
I could be wrong but I thought the bottle was found inside Reillys vehicle.
Straight up psychotic. She should get exactly whatever the max sentencing is that he would have gotten.
More than that.
Law enforcement should be held to a higher standard, and this kind of violation of trust and abuse of power deserves far more than just the punishment for a DUI. The DUI punishment should be stacked on top of whatever she can be charged with for this act itself: false arrest, filing false reports, falsifying evidence, etc. And there should be no allowance for serving those sentences concurrently.
But it probably won’t happen.
Knowingly arresting someone based on false evidence should be charged federally as kidnapping.
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Unless you can prove in a court of law that another cop was told by another court not to dump booze in another victim’s car, then arrest them for it, then there is no way we can expect her to have known this was wrong! (Qualified Immunity)
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Cops don’t have to know the laws they’re paid to enforce. (Heien v. North Carolina)
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Cops have no legal duty to protect you (DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, Castle Rock v. Gonzales)
Cops have no legal duty to protect you (DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, Castle Rock v. Gonzales)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
That’s not what qualified immunity means, FYI. Qualified immunity protects state actors (i.e. police) from being sued for actions performed during the execution of their duties. The state and/or department takes up financial responsibilities. It does not shield them from criminal prosecution.
The cops certainly really, really wish it did. And if they had their preference, they’d have you believe it did, too. But it doesn’t.
On paper, the police are not above the law in regards to criminal prosecution. Unfortunately in practice generally they are. As we’ve seen many times.
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Oh it absolutely won’t. You have to have a reasonable expectation.
The real question is, what can we do? This type of shit needs to stop, I’m so tired of cops like this!
It’s all of them though. Some might not do things like this but there’s no doubt they cover for the ones that do. That’s why we say ACAB.
There’s nothing I can think to be done but dismantle the entire organization and destroy the gangs er I mean unions. Then we can start fresh with all new people, new (and extensive) training, and a completely different culture.
Seems impossible. Anyone got an idea for a way to get there?
I say ban qualified immunity, force every cop to have their body cameras turned on at all times (except for when they use the bathroom), have weekly/biweekly training, etc.
I’ll settle for her being fired and charged with making up evidence. Let her name be entered into a national + open database of people whose words are worthless.
I’m more interested in the taxpayers compensating Riley for as much as possible, and maybe asking for higher quality police officers who can do their jobs. You know, the fiscally responsible path…
Double the sentence she tried to frame him for in addition to the max for any and all other crimes she may have committed, and knowingly arresting someone based on false evidence needs to be charged federally as kidnapping because that’s what it is.
What pieces of shit, also, she’s dumb as fuck for clearly doing something illegal knowing she was wearing a bodycam.
Bodycams should not have a way to turn them off on the field, there’s no legitimate reason to, some states even allow it but require a 10 second timer
Honestly, why they don’t constantly run but have button as a marker for “I have to take a bathroom break” and not review that footage unless something happened that requires review during that time period is beyond me.
Because those very same cops also have access to evidence. And within days every single female officer’s bathroom pics will be in the text messages of every male officer.
So - because even cops know that cops aren’t trustworthy. Not even to other cops.
I think we’re saying the same thing. 🤔
Or if you wanted to pretend the court system was real; presumption of pig guilt for anything off camera.
But that will never happen. Accountability will come from you, or it will come from nobody.
If the camera is off they are no longer a cop until it is back on. That needs to be the rule. Then if they cannot provide footage a lot of civil lawsuits will be able to get past QI bullshit at least.
What kind of chimpanzee plants evidence, while wearing the camera that will later be used in court?
As a European, I can only apologise. We clearly did not send our brightest and best all those years ago…
It’s almost certainly complacency on her part. She’s probably done this an innumerable amount of times. At first I’m sure she was very careful in covering her tracks. She’s just gotten away with it so many times now that she stopped caring about whether or not it was easy to catch her in the act. Probably figured there was very little chance anyone would see the footage. ACAB
I want to live out the balance of my life solely fueled by the flesh of these despicable subhumans. Maybe get them into some factory farming conditions? I prefer my badge-pig walnut finished unless a longer more painful option is available. It’s not that i don’t like them…😉
Sure it looks bad on video, but what do the training documents say?
The training says to pour it on the suspect so he smells of alcohol when he gets to the station.
She gets a 3/5, needs to retake the planting evidence course.
It is at max a 1/5
She got caught on a bodt cam, thats a BIG nono.
