Don’t do that. Don’t get my hopes up.
Why not? Everyone else has been doing that to me for decades.
Don’t forget that he also didn’t found Tesla
Correct! He sued his way into being called a founder.
I cant say I know what this shithead has contributed to society if anything but a place for toXicity to grow.
Apparently the ghost of Elon doesn’t like this, telling from the downvotes
I think he contributed to how we see billionaires now. The little money grabbing idiots which contribute nothing to society.
We don’t have to do this. Not everything is black and white. Tesla would not be where it is today without his intervention. I expect SpaceX wouldn’t either.
He’s also a Nazi enabler and promoter.
A person can do both good and bad.
I don’t think it’s about whether what he did with Tesla is good (it is at least debatable whether it is unilaterally good given they are anti-competitive in the EV market). It’s rather about the pretense for the good thing. Elon isn’t driven to help the environment. The sum purpose of Tesla’s operations isn’t environmentalism, else they’d not be selling carbon credits to ICE manufacturers, incentivising them to avoid EV production.
And it’s not even just that “the good” was only to make money, it’s that it’s as a member of the landed gentry he had the opportunity to throw many things at the wall that failed before the Tesla takeover stuck; his ‘intervention’ is simply a VC success story by happenstance.
Taking this at face value, is what he did with Tesla really laudable at all? It is a lucky byproduct of elitism.
Add “born privileged, into wealth” to Nazi enabler.
You’re right to critique his motivations.
Privileged Nazi enabler & promoter L Musk has accomplished some genuinely impressive achievements in some of the worst ways for the wrong reasons
How’s that?
The Nazi enabler part being the bad side, you’re saying we should to reconcile this with the good side. I’m saying the good side is actually just some good shit that happened. Attributing it to Elon would be a mistake because of all of the times he did the same thing with the same intent and it never amounted to anything. For the truly good person, their opportunities to do good things would have been well exhausted before the Tesla opportunity arose. If we’re trying to balance the perception of how good we are it should be a function of the proportion of the things we do that are good vs. bad, not a function of how many things we have the means to try.
Fair point!
Tesla would not be where it is today without his intervention.
Yeah, I might have actually bought one without his intervention.
He’s not really dead. Made me look though.
thank you ivwas looking through comments to check
Yeeeah had me in the first half, ngl
The absolute beauty of this: readers adding context without denying the actual content of the message. Glorious.
Remember in grammar school when your teacher told you that Wikipedia is not a valid source? I’m sure they’re saying the same thing about AI right now.
The difference being that on wikipedia you could use the sources on there while AI makes those up as well
A more important reason is teachers let you use Wikipedia sources, while even valid ai content is “not your work”
Well, we do have AI that cites sources now, but it’s still not completely accurate.
I remember an AI that wrote a legal motion and justified its arguments by citing cases it made up.
I mean, of course. For the record, that wasn’t the type that cites its sources intrinsically as part of its response creation process, although it wouldn’t be immune to hallucinations even if it was.
Yeah, and I have to practice mental arithmetic because I won’t always have a calculator in my pocket.
I mean if all the screenshots people take with their battery in the corner at 1% is any indication, you won’t always have one lol
Learn how to do math in your head for the sheer pleasure of it, instead!
how dare you give me false hope
I would prefer to read that he lost all of his money and is now homeless. I’m not a fan of wishing even the worst people dead.
Prefer dead. Estate taxes would be a field day
What percentage are estate taxes? What if the solution to wealth inequality is just murdering the 0.1% and heirs until the money has all been collected back by the government…
Nah, fuck that.
Some people, the greatest gift they can give to society and the species, is their removal from the gene pool.
Musk has 10 children, he is plenty present in the gene pool either way.
Down for an equitable & fair (based on societal support of/contributions to his empire) redistribution of his wealth especially if it comes with a significant deplatforming, since he can’t stop spewing such vile opinions.
He can have a one-bedroom apartment no problem, heck even a house if he decided to ever see any of his million kids.
Certainly not a desirable fantasy, jumping straight to wanting somebody dead, unless that were the only way someone’s brutality could conceivably be stopped.
What’s sad is that even if he’s gone in body or in wealth, some other jackasses will still be around to ruin everything for us.
What a shit community this has become when hoping someone is dead has this much upvotes.
The man is an asshole and stain on society, his death would likely marginally improve the world’s future outlook.
how dare you be mean to Fallenwouts big beloved internet daddy Elon Musk. /s
What a shit guy who cares more about people who live in thousands of years than people who live today:
https://netzpolitik.org/2023/longtermism-an-odd-and-peculiar-ideology/
https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo
Why do I think this ideology is so dangerous? The short answer is that elevating the fulfilment of humanity’s supposed potential above all else could nontrivially increase the probability that actual people – those alive today and in the near future – suffer extreme harms, even death. Consider that, as I noted elsewhere, the longtermist ideology inclines its adherents to take an insouciant attitude towards climate change. Why? Because even if climate change causes island nations to disappear, triggers mass migrations and kills millions of people, it probably isn’t going to compromise our longterm potential over the coming trillions of years. If one takes a cosmic view of the situation, even a climate catastrophe that cuts the human population by 75 per cent for the next two millennia will, in the grand scheme of things, be nothing more than a small blip – the equivalent of a 90-year-old man having stubbed his toe when he was two.
Bostrom’s argument is that ‘a non-existential disaster causing the breakdown of global civilisation is, from the perspective of humanity as a whole, a potentially recoverable setback.’ It might be ‘a giant massacre for man’, he adds, but so long as humanity bounces back to fulfil its potential, it will ultimately register as little more than ‘a small misstep for mankind’. Elsewhere, he writes that the worst natural disasters and devastating atrocities in history become almost imperceptible trivialities when seen from this grand perspective. Referring to the two world wars, AIDS and the Chernobyl nuclear accident, he declares that ‘tragic as such events are to the people immediately affected, in the big picture of things … even the worst of these catastrophes are mere ripples on the surface of the great sea of life.’
This way of seeing the world, of assessing the badness of AIDS and the Holocaust, implies that future disasters of the same (non-existential) scope and intensity should also be categorised as ‘mere ripples’. If they don’t pose a direct existential risk, then we ought not to worry much about them, however tragic they might be to individuals. As Bostrom wrote in 2003, ‘priority number one, two, three and four should … be to reduce existential risk.’ He reiterated this several years later in arguing that we mustn’t ‘fritter … away’ our finite resources on ‘feel-good projects of suboptimal efficacy’ such as alleviating global poverty and reducing animal suffering, since neither threatens our longterm potential, and our longterm potential is what really matters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longtermism
He does not care about us, why should anyone care about him? Unfortunately other rich people are also into this, because it helps them to ignore the worlds problems and to do whatever they want to the people living now.
He is also not the founder of Tesla. Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning are.
I saw a presentation from one of them about the founding of Tesla, impressive stuff. Elon just takes their talking points, that’s why he can’t deviate far from a couple points.
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Oh how I wish this was true. Would have made this world a better place.
No doubt he’s a egotistical dick, but to say the world would be a better place without him is categorically false on many grounds.
- The man popularized electric vehicles like no car manufacturers have ever been able to do.
- SpaceX’s achievement in reducing the cost per pound and reusable rocket tech will have profound implications on our species survival over the long run.
- Starlink coverage now provides relatively affordable internet to far more remote areas of the world.
So while I think recent years of criticism is fair based on his behavior (why the hell is he wasting precious time on Twitter again?) to say the world would be better off without him is to overlook the substantial contributions he has made towards technological advancement and global connectivity. It’s important to separate the individual’s personal flaws from the broader value of their work. Just my 2 cents.
Yay, electric vehicles are popular! Only bring loads of issues, cost a lot of rare earth metals which are mined by slaves and children, run on fossil fuel electricity (many coal plants and bio gas which are burned forests) and they are too heavy for the roads we have and electricity network, causing both to require many more replacements and maintenance, which costs loads of co2 emissions.
SpaceX is awesome! Costs less materials, so much easier to launch way more rockets into the sky! Like for starlink for example. Luckily the fuel used for it has zero emissions /s
But starlink is nice. Loads of space junk and coverage in most places is where already a different and faster network is, but it’s nice to have connectivity in hard to reach places. But is it worth all the emissions and space junk? And child labor for all the rare earth metals?
That connectivity in hard-to-reach places—much like free speech absolutism—is conditional upon whether he (or the dictator of an invading force, with whom he agrees) will allow it
[edit] and apparently Starlink may not even be profitable, with its accounting described as “more art than science” which always bodes well
Broke his back trying to suck his own dick. Sad.
That shit’s serious, LA’s local sexpot suffered the same fate
He should have just got that surgery that Marilyn Manson got lol
Ah yes, the infamous rib removal. That’s why he doesn’t walk anymore, he just kind of stumbles in the direction he’s currently flailing in.
Can we please rebrand ‘X’ as ‘The website formerly known as twitter’?
Also, best post here in a while
Also, don’t get my hopes up -.-
edit: so no prince fans here then ^^"
keep deadnaming it until he stops deadnaming his kid
But is it a dead name? Last I looked, the URL was still “twitter.com”.
Yeah, until the domain is available it’s fair to call it that
The domain is available, x.com just redirects to Twitter.com
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If musk won’t recognize his child’s new chosen name, I won’t recognize twitter’s new branding
No, just keep calling it twitter. Thats what it is. thats what it’ll always be.
xitter, shitter because that’s what it feels like walking under
The best part is it still works if you pronounce it as “Zitter.”
X pronounced the way it is in Chinese.
“X” is such terrible branding that every news article always has to do what you suggest, otherwise people don’t know what the hell is being discussed.
The dumbass bought a thing that the strongest and most valuable thing it had to offer was brand recognition and immediately eliminated the branding.
I like Xitter more, as in “shitter”.
I prefer “Twitter, temporarily rebranded as X…”
We could skip and just jump to using a symbol.
Nice. This thought was going through my mind as well
Made me check, even though I knew it was a shitpost.
Made me
checkhope, even though I knew it was a shitpost.We still doing ftfy?
Made me
checkhope, even though I knew it was a shitpost.ftfy
ftfy
He was eaten alive by pigs with neuralink.
Neurapigs
Porkilinks
NeuraOink
That sounds like a breakfast sausage brand
Engineers warned him that the pigs couldn’t be trusted with a built-in weapons link, Elon said “I’ll be just just like the heros of Deus Ex and Cyberpunk, the CEOs!”
Awww pigly.
I’m hearing this in Dana Carvey’s Tom Brokaw.
“And he was delicious.”
He’s also not a founder of Tesla 🤷♂️
For that matter, he’s also not a founder of SpaceX, and even calling him co-founder of PayPal has a lot of clarifications around it. If PayPal had gone ahead the way Musk had wanted, it could easily have sunk the company into another joke of the excess of the dot-com boom of the 90s.
Among all of Peter Thiel’s sins, propping up Musk’s ego by forcing him out of the company to save it is one of them
As much as I am loath to say anything about Musk, but he did actually found SpaceX - although that’s probably the only company he founded (that still exists).
A founder of shit, like most of us. Only with gigantic funds.
He’s the flounder of Tesla.
Nope. He was an early investor who sued so that he could call himself a founder.
He isn’t an original founder.
Have a closer look.
Woooosh
I’m sure there’s a deadman’s switch on all the Teslas, Neuralinks and SpaceX/Starlink so we’d all know for sure he was dead.
If we live that long.
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I’ll have to try it, I love retro games.
Wtfym retro? Wasn’t 2010 just a couple years ago‽
There’s legal porn stars born in 2006.
That’s one way to measure time, I guess. Could have gone with old enough to vote but ok 😄
BTW, did you know that, if he was alive today, Kurt Cobain would be closer to 60 than 50?
No but I know what the last thing that went through Kurt’s mind was.
Stop… I feel old enough already 😫
They all just stop, let out a digital shriek, as all the LED’s turn blood red…
Prepare for the wreckoning…
To think I found out about it this way - in a shitposting community that regularly posts absurd lies.
Wait i thought that was only a shit post… I gotta google something real quick
Edit: google (or rather brave search) says hes not dead
Wikipedia hasn’t been updated, confirmed definitely not dead
I’m pretty sure wikipedia knows before the person who died
It’s simply easier for Death to update Wikipedia before the act. Death doesn’t want to be late for the party that comes after.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN ‘IT REQUIRES CLARIFICATION’?
I got that reference. I hear the tombstones
No abandoned shoes, no death.
But you’re not supposed to trust what you read on the Internet!
When I looked just now it said he did actually die, so maybe it’s a developing story
Unfolding over the next 50 yesrs?
You got it
I find no reputable sources reporting his death
Sir/ma’am this is a shit posting community
No for sure. But people were treating it like it might be legitimate
When I become billionaire I also want to buy a company and become its founder. Wait, that’s not how it works
He certainly founded its downfall
However, that DOES give you money to sue people so you can have the court order them to recognize you as a founder.
I feel like we should have specific words to insult people that does that kind of things, like claiming tings they haven’t really done or invented. I think when i was young in the demo scene they were called lamers
He founded X which acquired Twitter. Or something like that. 🤔
Nah, he bought twitter and changed its name to something that looks like a placeholder
