• SolidGrue
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    “I don’t hide from that. I was certainly skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016, but President Trump was a great president and he changed my mind. I think he changed the minds of a lot of Americans,” Vance told Fox’s Sean Hannity in a friendly interview

    Translation: I was against him before I was for him, now that I’ll be the number 2!

    • @jeffwOP
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      464 months ago

      “I was against him before I decided to run for office and realized I had to be MAGA to win”

      FTFY

    • @barsquid
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      144 months ago

      “I didn’t realize the Christofascists forming our voting base were all dimwits who are so racist they would follow a lifelong con man promising to build a wall against immigration. Now I do.”

    • @Wrench
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      104 months ago

      Better to be Himmler than a political prisoner.

    • @Today
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      64 months ago

      And as soon as someone takes him out I’ll be number one

  • @zeppo
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    484 months ago

    I thought that would be considered a compliment in MAGA circles.

    • @Sterile_Technique
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      184 months ago

      Not out loud. Sometimes (but increasingly frequent) the quiet part slips out, but they’re still kinda-I-guess maintaining an ostensible veneer of constructive and pro-American values.

      So you’ll see the evil shit that makes them cheer, followed immediately by “he didn’t mean it like that” “he was just joking” “buttery males!” “Sure a few trans people might get the shit beat out of them / killed, but it’s for the greater good of keeping our bathrooms secure!”

  • @[email protected]
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    434 months ago

    “I thought America’s Hitler was a bad thing, until I became America’s Goebbels!”

  • @evidences
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    God I hate this child. Policies aside I fucking hate politicians that lie about their backgrounds for clout. Like all I hear about his book is how it describes growing up poor in a small rural town. The place he lived in as a child has a population around 50k now and, best I can find, also did when he was born. It’s like half way between Dayton and Cincinnati in their suburban area so it’s not even rural.

    And Bernie Moreno who’s running for the other Senate seat in Ohio this year is trying to pull the same shit. This dudes parents emigrated to Florida but his dad was a doctor and his mother ended up buying a 4 bedroom house using money from her parents shortly after they moved to the US. Like bro you didn’t grow up poor.

    • NelDel
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      Yeah I grew up around that region and you’re absolutely right it’s halfway between suburban and rural. Everyone I know from the area that’s read the book says he comes across as a middle class person cosplaying as Appalachian poor.

  • Blanksy
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    No different than when Kamala called Biden a racist

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        Yeah, she just said “I’m not calling you a racist, but” and then proceeded to describe past racist statements of his that had a negative effect on her as a young girl of color! Totally different! 🙄

        Disclaimer: no, that doesn’t make Blankzy’s whataboutism a valid counterargument to the fact that Vance is a spineless opportunist and a fascist or at the very least an enabler of fascism.

        • @FlowVoid
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          she just said “I’m not calling you a racist, but”

          She didn’t say that, either.

          What she actually said was “I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.”

          • @Viking_Hippie
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            And then came the “but” to show she just said the first part to avoid being attacked by the press and his supporters.

            Besides, “finding common ground” with racists on race issues is just less overt racism.

            Unlike his “racial jungle” comment, which was completely overt racism.

              • @Viking_Hippie
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                Yeah, all of those assumed that she was being genuine rather than just covering her ass. Not always a good idea when dealing with politicians, and almost never when dealing with her specifically.

                • Lightor
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                  34 months ago

                  Well seeing how often you misrepresented the truth in this thread alone, forgive me if I don’t side with your assumption.

            • @FlowVoid
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              she just said the first part

              That’s certainly one interpretation, especially if you want to put words into people’s mouths to fit your narrative.

              Here’s another interpretation: when Kamala said that she doesn’t believe Biden is racist, it meant that she doesn’t believe Biden is racist.

              • @Viking_Hippie
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                It’s common knowledge that “everything before ‘but’ can almost always safely be discarded as disingenuous” and this is one such case.

                I’m not putting any words in anyone’s mouth, I’m just disregarding the disingenuous ones she used before talking about Biden’s racism affecting her negatively as a person of color.

                Here’s another interpretation: when Kamala said that she doesn’t believe Biden is racist, it meant that she doesn’t believe Biden is racist.

                It’s kinda adorable how you automatically assume that a politician known for pretending to be a progressive and than doing a sharp turn to the right to become VP is being genuine and employing no artifice in her big prepared debate zinger lol

              • @Viking_Hippie
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                Nope. Just following the logic of “everything before the ‘but’ is usually disingenuous” to apply to an otherwise self-contradictory statement from a notoriously disingenuous politician 🤷

                • @FlowVoid
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                  Just following the logic of “If Kamala doesn’t confirm my bias, she must be lying.”

                  And her statement is not “self-contradictory”. She thinks Biden said hurtful things in the past but she doesn’t think he is racist.

                  Frankly that could apply to a lot of white people. So if you don’t understand how she can truthfully say those things, that’s on you.

                • Lightor
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                  Not at all.

                  We need to go to the store, but let’s hurry so we can get back home.

                  She is very talented, but she is also very modest.

                  The weather was cold, but the scenery was beautiful.

                  The movie was long, but it kept my attention throughout.

                  I mean I could go on and on. If this is the one thing your holding into turn you’ve got nothing.