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I just see two autistics attempting to communicate by email.
You really cannot blame them. Especially when Universities partner with OpenAI and cut off all ways to contact advisors aside from text and email right before admissions.
As a probably not autistic person, email is one area where warmth is not wanted. Just get to the point, I have a dozen more to get through. And that’s precisely why you shouldn’t use AI to write email, AI rambles, I want 1-2 sentences, short phrases are fine.
At my job, Email is either:
- Jira notifications
- Long ramblings about some project or fire that happened
All other communication is through our chat (zulip, like Slack) or video calls.
I remember dealing with short emails back in the day. But id flip out these days.
Yup, pretty much the same. If we do get email, they’re usually pretty short, or they’re corporate nonsense.
Seriously. I want highly detailed, equally highly concise emails. Send me an email with the topic in the subject and only relevant bullet points in the body and I’ll love the hell out of you.
Should’ve just said “Ain’t AI. I just dgaf”
It’s work email not a love letter.
I would reply, “If I’m curt with you it’s because time is a factor. See you on fucking Friday.”
Oh shit, that sounds way more fun than casual Friday
It’s great but then you have to mop the floors.
Autistic Individual
You mother fucker
That’s Oedipus. Different guy.
Tedipus
AI is an initialism since you don’t pronounce AI. NASA would be an acronym because you pronounce the word.
TIL (ty)
Now this is the kind of pedantry I’m here for
this is one of those facts i have to struggle to keep to myself to avoid coming off as an insufferable nerd
Boom, roasted
Don’t tell me what to do.
Whatever you do, don’t follow this advice.
Do SQL next!
Correct:
- “Sequel”
- Structured Query Language
Incorrect:
- “Squall”
- “Es-queue-el”
The one that people really screw up? PostgreSQL.
It’s interesting that Wikipedia says it’s pronounced " S-Q-L" but was historically pronounced “sequel.”
Also interesting, MySQL says on their site:
The official way to pronounce “MySQL” is “My Ess Que Ell” (not “my sequel”), but we do not mind if you pronounce it as “my sequel” or in some other localized way.
Lastly, for those curious, PostgreSQL says on their site:
PostgreSQL is pronounced Post-Gres-Q-L.
Post Graduate Squirrel
Squirrel.
My people often pronounce nginx as “n-ginsk” not “engine x”.
sad pikachu
What about squill?
Squeal?
You’re one of those? Its sequel and GIF has a hard g.
Soft G folk are just objectively wrong. Not only is Jif a peanut butter, it’s a damn file extension: https://fileinfo.com/extension/jif
I don’t care how inconsequential it is, I will die on this hill.
Jif is an oven cleaner here. Because I hate everyone, I started pronouncing it Gif. Makes a lot of people very very angry
Nah, creator says soft-g. Just like gigawatts.
I called this S.Q.L. until our IT guy corrected me
I’m the head of IT for my company and it’s S-Q-L and I’m a native speaker.
It’s not a grammatically correct pronunciation at all (which is why it seems like non-native English tends to not say “Sequel”) and even MySQL documentation specifically calls it out and says it’s S-Q-L
Generally English first language speakers say sequel while everyone else spells it out.
If it’s pronounced sequel why isn’t it CQL?
Because it’s not, it’s just something from computing history that is no longer relevant
|ay| checkmate atheists.
Wait you do not pronounce AI like a Sopranos character that just found an eye ball on the sidewalk?
AI is pronounced “ay-eye”
Are ya ready kids!
I always forget this, thanks
Is initialism a type of acronym? Or do they have an umbrella term? Surely, they are the same thing, but if initialism has easily string-able sounds it’s an acronym (ex. CPU vs. RAM). And some are even both depending on person saying it, like LED.
Is pronouncing LED like an acronym common? I’ve never heard it, and it would take me a while to work out what they’re on about if they’re talking about “lead”
It doesn’t happen very often, but I’ve heard it used that way. It’s usually obvious from context, like I think I heard with “OLED vs. LED”. And as @[email protected] mentioned, it’s used a lot in languages other than English, in my experience in many slavic ones, for example.
Haven’t ever heard it in English either, but it’s very common in Polish. In Polish LED can even become a proper adjective, e.g. “światło ledowe” (LED light), with the initialism even losing capitalisation
Other way around.
An acronym is a type of initialism, which is itself a type of abbreviation.
So acronyms are initialisms where you pronounce the letters like a word (e.g., RAM), initialisms are abbreviations made by taking the initial letters of multiple words and concatenating them regardless of how it’s spoken (e.g. FBI for Federal Bureau of Investigation), and an abbreviation is any shortening of a word or phrase into something shorter (e.g., “abbrev.” for abbreviation or “US” for United States).
Is US an abbreviation of an initialism (USA)?
I did some research, and apparently, “United States” without “of America” could be a kind of ellipsis. But more likely, it’s just an alternative country name. So I think that makes US an initialism (because you pronounce it as [yu-es]) for an alt (bonus info: this is a final clipping, or apocope, of “alternative”) name.
Linguistics is such a dirt hut…
This may be a bit prescriptivist. Most people use the word acronym for all of them.
It can be pronounced though as I or eye or something.
Yeah you can do that. You would be wrong and people around you would wonder why you switched the subject. But you can do that.
But how many people would I need to convince to pronounce it for it to turn into an acronym?
No. That’s how we end up with stupid sounding crap like (ugh) “Gooey” for GUI. Just say G-U-I or A-I.
It’s been called a gooey since at least the mid 80s. All you kids get off my lawn.
Then it’s been wrong since the mid-80s and also becomes probable someone just did it as a joke and then it persisted
Nope, G-U-I is objectively wrong. Get off A7thStone’s lawn, we’re having a nice chat.
Or counterpoint, you’re wrong and you should feel bad.
Nah, and I can prove it
mathgramaticallyIn order to make GUI pronounceable you have to add in vowels and blend consonants and fundamentally changes it’s pronociation. GUI is meant to have each letter on its own, and on their own those letters cannot make the “oo” and “ee” sounds
On their own they make the following pronunciations:
G: Pronounced as /dʒi/
U: Pronounced as /ju/ (like “you”)
I: Pronounced as /aɪ/ (like “eye”), with a long “i” sound
In contrast, true acronyms like “NASA” form a pronounceable word naturally without requiring any modifications, making “Gooey” a grammatically improper pronunciation of “GUI.”
You’re right everyone pronounces taxi as tax eye. You’re actually trying to dictate pronunciation in English?
No, GUI is a great acronym.
I had a colleague pronounce CLI as an acronym, though, and that stopped a meeting short.
Huh, short i?
He said it like “klee”
He’ll probably never live it down
Ah, I thought it was like “clit,” but missing the “t.” That could get you sent to HR…
I’m no snitch
till (today I learned) some people say G - U - I and not gooey
The first time I heard the term gooey it was from someone I don’t like so now I can’t stand it. All I can think about is buying that dude a toothbrush, but then he’d probably go on about how toothbrushes are actually bad for your health.
I’ve always said the letters and was surprised when I heard someone say ‘gooey’ when I entered college.
Still don’t like it.
no one likes being wrong
At my last job I helped design VUIs, voice user interface. We called them “vooeys”.
some people say G - U - I
It should be that way always, frankly, I don’t know why gooey even got started. Something “gooey” is the last thing I’d want associated with computer stuff
But I loathe all of the stupid attempts at shoehorning pronunciations of initialisms where it doesn’t belong
It’s not “Sequel” its fucking S-Q-L. They’re all initialisms. I will go through my entire IT career and die on this hill.
Do you say J-P-E-G instead of jay-peg?
No because jay-peg actually makes sense and fits well, just like NASA makes sense and fits well. You can say NASA and JPEG without having to introduce additional letters to make it work. Unlike “Gooey”, “Sequel”, or “Scuzzy” which all require the addon of more letters to actually work
You can just see JPEG and intuitively go “Oh Jay-PEG” you can’t say the same for SCSI
You have to “add” letters for JPEG to be pronounceable.
I suppose you called them small computer system interface drives instead of SCSI drives too.
Don’t even start with PCMCIA
I just say S-C-S-I instead of “Scuzzy” or whatever it is
Everyone says H-T-T-P, why don’t they say “Hettep”‽
Nah, it’s scuzzy.
And when I’m trolling, I say “huh-tu-tu-puh” for HTTP.
It’s not “sequel,” it’s “squirrel.”
TIL you can pronounce it “Gooey” - aww, people are wierd but creative!
Funny having the opposite realization. Wonder how many times each of us have heard others pronounce GUI. You in the US?
Hard for me to estimate now that I think about it
I’ve probably said GUI tens of thousands of times. Have you ever heard some pronounce SQL as squeal?
LOL
Thankfully absolutely not
‘I’ before ‘E’ except after ‘W’
It’s easy to remember because it rhymes
WYSIWYG = why see wig
Wizzy-wig.
I always said Wizz-e-wig
If only their next meeting had been on a Tuesday, that would have been the perfect plausibly deniable “fuck you” to end the reply with 😄
For the last time, my name is Al
I can call you Betty And Betty, when you call me. You can call me AI
ALAN! ALAN!
Will you be my bodyguard?
I can be your long lost Pal.
I can call you Betty
PAI
Rua must never have worked tech support. I’ve been accused of being a robot more times than I can count, years before ChatGPT was even a thing.
Nice try, robot.
Nice try, AI powered AI detector.
We’ve had automated chats for a long time
Yeah, but I’m far more articulate than those things ever were which is what makes it so insulting >:[
Since ChatGPT learns from internet users, does that mean the majority of internet users are autistic?
You already know the answer to that one lol
A place known for highly obsessive and weirdly specific knowledge experts? Surely not
Why aren’t you helping the tortoise?
Never trust a tortoise. Horny bastards.
Aitistic.
See you next Friday
Shoulda said Tuesday
K, I have an Excel sheet that helps me with epitaphs, I’ll update it to use next Tuesday if that’s the normal
See you next 1727813501
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