- cross-posted to:
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- housing_bubble_2
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Than before?
Maybe they shouldn’t horde and partition their wealth from their children and do everything possible to ensure every penny is spent before death.
Once again Gen-X is ignored. It’s Gen-X hitting grandparenting age.
My two kids probably won’t be parents, and I’m ok with that. I want them to be happy more than I want to enjoy grandkids. Whatever they choose, I’ll be happy with.
I felt pressure from Boomer parents to have kids, and I didn’t want to do the same to my kids. That’s a hard nope.
Yeah this is a good point. Young boomers are, what, 65?
About 59 I think.
Seems like old = boomers and young = millennials for journalist and a lot of people
Make college and homes unobtainable… You get what you get and you don’t get upset.
Make the world a place that will be liveable in 100 years and pay people enough to exist:
A) without children, and B) with children
and boom, problem solved. Statistically, anyway.
Young folks have been priced out of housing & healthcare, you can be fired from your job on a whim, food is astronomically expensive, the political climate is tense, your basic human rights could be rescinded at any time, the future of the planet is being murdered by shitty capitalists with 0 regard for human life…
I mean, who wouldn’t want to bring a child into this world right now?
Eat shit.
I’m hunting for a new job for the second time in less than a year, and I’m honestly a skilled professional with over 10 years of experience, with a lot of proof that I do great work. The labor market is stupid right now, just down right stupid. Full of executives searching for short term profits rather than anyone wanting to actually run a company well. That’s alone is a huge reason, on top of everything else. I don’t even know if I’ll have stable employment, and that means I don’t know if I’ll have stable health insurance - so genuinely what are any actual incentives to my generation to have kids? Literally are there any beyond just “you have a kid now”
I’m a software engineer currently trying to find employment, and it’s so bad I’m wondering if I’ll just have to do something else for a while.
My last company basically fired all their US devs, and outsourced to foreign countries for cheaper.
I am a computing director. My take: software dev has been over saturated for the last 12-15 years but people keep seeing dollar signs in their eyes. My advice: learn a business skill like project management. It will allow you to work in any location.
I have 7 years professional experience, and I’m even getting passed over for positions listed as requiring 1-3 years. It’s wild right now.
I’m thinking about just going back to school, while the market is complete shit.
That works too. A degree is a reset button on your career. I’d suggest either specializing in something niche to make you more desirable or doing something very different so that you have more options.
It’s shit, right? I’m so sorry. I hope that stability comes to you very soon.
Reject tradition. You have no obligation to sacrifice your well-being because some old, out-of-touch fuckwads want something life-changing from you. Can’t even afford groceries.
They can foster a child if they want one around so badly. Or go sit at a park. Or volunteer at the church nursery or something, ffs.
bingo. The SO and I have talked about it, and we decided if we regret it a bit later and it’s too late, adoption is always a valid choice. After all, we’re not bringing new life in so we don’t have to feel guilty about that, but instead we would be giving a home to someone else who needs one. However, there are still many, many negatives as to why we don’t want to or simply can’t right now.
The parts of the world with the most population growth are generally also the poorest. Richer countries have fewer children, and within those countries richer people have fewer children.
I’m not saying that your concerns about your quality of life are invalid or that they aren’t the reason you personally don’t want children, but they don’t explain this general phenomenon.
Kids are a retirement strategy in poorer countries, they are the opposite in richer ones.
In which country?
In another timeline where boomers didn’t destroy the housing market, didn’t ignore climate change, and didn’t continue to vote for regressive policies, maybe they’d have grandchildren.
I’m sorry but the collapse of the housing market and lack of action against climate change has way more to do with the commodification/privitization of housing and energy (as well as labor exploitation in the case of fossil fuels) than some arbitrary generational definition.
Don’t let yourself be convinced to blame fellow workers for the consequences of corporate and state action.
You’re being charitable. You need to remind yourself though that pretty much all of them voted for Reagan because Carter had the audacity to say that we can fix a lot of problems by consuming less. This was a generation that fully believed that they could do a consumerism without end.
My point was that they’ve continually voted against their own interests (and against the interests of the rest of their class, which is why they now don’t have grandchildren). I will continue to blame them for that at the very least, as they’ve continually proven that they enjoy the corporate and state inaction (because they’ve always voted to keep it up).
It should also be noted that this is a post about boomers, so of course people are going to bring them up in the comments.
I was told it’s all those immigrants vault. It was on my TV last night so it must be true!
It should also be noted that this is a post about boomers, so of course people are going to bring them up in the comments.
Of course and I expected that. I only bothered commenting because I see a lot of media attempting to use boomers as a scapegoat for severe structural issues. I feel it is our responsibility to rebuke this reactionary rhetoric when we see it. Yes boomers often vote against their own class interest but we must also understand they grew up in a time where propaganda was rapidly becoming more effective and increasingly privatized. Which is to say that the propaganda machine served the rich and their interest. They are severely brainwashed especially in the imperial core. Its easy to be angry at them for letting this happen but we must remember who did the brainwashing. Falling for their scapegoats makes us like dogs fighting over bones thrown by meat
even if I had kids my dad would be excluded from grandparenting due to the trump worship. don’t need that kind of influence on the adult family members let alone kids.
Shouldn’t 'ave fucked up the economy and environment, simple as
“Oh no it’s the consequences of my own actions!”
I want the lions share of the profits of our economy! I want to pull the ladder up behind me! Why aren’t these lazy millennials having kids for me!?
You’re entitled millennials!
/Vomit
you fucking millennials and your avocado toast cost me grandbebbies!
Guess you shouldn’t have been entitled little shits and fucked up the world, then.
Who writes this trash…
Imagine a society ran for benefit of gereatrics and nepo babies at the expense of young working people
Now open your eyes 🤡
Yeah cuz they’re hoarding the houses.
Elder millennial here. I had kids, my brother didn’t, and my kids, though young enough to change their minds, are adamant they won’t have kids.
I think the more interesting stat likely unfolding is the marked decrease of great grandparents in a generation.
To be clear this is not a “threat to society” or whatever, people can decide if they want kids or not. Just a shower thought.
The real solution has always been immigration to get more bodies in the country managing the economy. It’ll never happen though.
Doesn’t that just kick the can down the road?
No. The world population will hit 10 billion in the year 2040. The only question is whether there will be enough people to keep the first world going or not.
It’ll never happen though.
Lolwat?
To replace the existing population, you have to throw open the gates and let people in. No country is willing to do that.
