Ah, they’re all crap.
Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It’s a corporate communication tool, I don’t use it because I think it’s beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.
The biggest mistake was to make it a “hub” for all sorts of other uses in my opinion. It shouldn’t be browser based, it should be native and just focus on chatting and calls, that’s it. It could be so much faster and intuitive.
You mean like Skype for Business?
You dare speak the name of the accursed one??
Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams
Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is… actually fine? Yeah, it’s not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it’s the corporate standard around here.
I can’t tell you how much time I’ve saved not having to do the whole “can you hear me? let me try reconnecting… oh wait try updating your browser” dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It’s been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I’m not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.
I hate teams because it consistently doesn’t just work
missed notifications, screensharing
i have little use of it and it constantly breaks
I went from teams/ms at another business to google at my current one. If they changed to Microsoft anything I’d burn the place down.
I haven’t really used any other platforms so I can’t really compare but I have encountered enough audio issues too. Especially with new Teams and bluetooth devices.
Same, Teams is terrible in terms of getting audio to work properly, our meetings still start with “can you hear me?” And often at least one person has to rejoin after pairing their bt headset again. But honestly everything else I’ve come across is even worse.
As with all things in business, good enough is king
I actually don’t mind it being web based, there are a lot of web based tools that run perfectly fine and don’t use that much resource
Teams is generally stable for me running the pwa in Microsoft edge nowadays too
I work in IT. I think it’s popular because it’s “free”.
With that said, I put up a picture on the office wall of a Swiss army knife with features like syringe, fire extinguisher, axe, etc and have it labeled Microsoft Teams. Yes, it can do 100 different tasks, fucking poorly.
It’s the Sharepoint of chat.
The fact that me and a coworker can’t both share our screens at the same time is absolutely batshit. 1x1 collaboration isn’t even reasonable, nevermind anything more
Try sharing anything except excel and enjoy your 3fps. Being a game dev and wanting to show videos or share my screen while playing is a no-go.
Yes. Why the fuck doesn’t Teams have this capability??
Trying to play a video in a meeting results in 2009 levels of choppiness. It’s insane.
They really need to fix that. I hate that. Not even 2009 levels, it just straight up sounds like a dial-up modem.
that is because theyre selling it to the business, not the end user. They dont give 2 fucks about your experience
Teams was a factor in leaving my last job. It was a small factor, but a factor nevertheless.
So far every job I’ve had or seen the inside of has used teams
“Your organization has blocked this action”
I mean this is my work phone, and I’m trying to copy a customer’s phone number from a spreadsheet to the dialer, but thanks man.
For a long time, I would occasionally use my personal phone to check work email and Slack when I had to be out-of-office for an errand. They created a new policy last month that would force me to have a “work” profile on my phone if I wanted to continue using those apps. Fuck that. Instead I removed every work related app from my phone.
“Sorry boss, I can’t check my messages while waiting at my doctor’s office anymore.Why? Oh, because IT policies won’t let me.”
Your org letting you login to anything on your normal profile is crazy. Did you at least CYA?
A lot of small to mid sized companies lack controls around personal device use. For many years we were actually encouraged by first-line managers to use personal devices to communicate when out-of-office. And yes, I always C my A.
Ok, what’s crazy about it and how do you CYA?
If you have a work-profile that’s created through an MDM, your work-apps are isolated from the other parts of phone and your workplace can set restrictions on how those apps can interact with the rest of your phone. Clipboard sharing may be allowed or not, installing Apps on that profile by yourself may be allowed or not, certain WiFi Networks may be saved, you get the Idea. The benefit is that if you leave the company, they can just remove that profile remotely and both, you and the company you work(ed) for, can be sure that you don’t keep any work-related data on your phone. The benefit for you is that android gives you a toggle to switch all of those apps off, so if you’re on PTO you can just hit the switch and it’s silent.
how do you CYA?
get written permission to sign-in to your work-related accounts on your phone
Not that I’m actually trying to defend MS/Teams (seriously, fuck ‘em both); but this is more due to IT Admin settings.
We have similar in our company, that’s in place because we handle PIR data regularly and it’s meant to be a speed bump rather than full roadblock.
I keep a Teams tab and an Outlook tab opened in Firefox on Linux at work, and I feel like I have a better experience than most people using it on windows, which seems crazy.
Does your voice calling work ok in Firefox? My video calls start off ok but always seem to drop out after a short bit. I wonder if it’s Firefox or my 30 privacy and security extensions lol
Yeah, our daily stand ups are via Teams (international team too) and it works pretty smoothly.
One oddity I’ve noticed is that when working from home and on (fast) Wi-Fi, it will hang for a moment and say the connection has an issue, but then be fine for the rest of the call. When I’m in the office in don’t think I’ve seen it do that.
I use Teams on linux on the desktop with no firefox. You might try that.
Spoken like a person who isn’t forced to use JIRA
We just switched to Jira and I hate how pedantic they let admins make it.
Who in their right mind disables the “clone” option on issues 🤦♂️
Spoken like someone who hasn’t had to use both!
We have that pile of dog shit as well!
Let us not forget confluence
Somehow still better than sharepoint
We have every one of these, all used lol
SharePoint I’d available company wide but the confluence and Jira are mostly just our department. Sucks to maintain stuff twice
The problem with sharepoint is its all invite only here.
They hoped confluence would fix. But in reality everyone uses the Docusaurus sites my team and another team spun up.
Docusaurus is an underrated project.
We do jira + bitbucket + confluence + teams.
I have all 3 D:
sounds suspiciously like we work together. 🤔
Grab lunch tomorrow?
only if the boss is paying 🤣
I like Jira?
Jira seems more consistent than Teams, and I’m in more control of Jira too.
Unfortunately, much better than Skype
I miss that ringtone though.
The “boop beeep boop… Beee-ooop beep” one?
It’s possible to be worse?
Oh fuck yeah. Skype used to throw errors when the advertisements scripts didn’t run correctly. I remember getting dozens of pop ups when the ad changed to something new. To my knowledge, they haven’t put ads in Teams, yet. They first need to kill the competition a bit; really set the hook before they reel you in.
Skype was a steaming pile for sure, but it had the ability to search for and message a distribution group and get an answer from whomever was available and I could pin it for future use. Now I have to know every name in a group and message them individually until I find someone to help or start a meeting to get everyone at once. It may just be how our Teams instance is configured, but I miss that feature. And who decided there should be a limit on how many people I can pin in Teams?
The real Skype was fine.
This Skype, I think, is just an ugly version of Teams.
I mean, Skype now is just a turd. I guess it was given to interns as an exercise and as a way to force people to use other solution. But teams also suck, in its own particular way as you described
I was expecting a detailed rant, including an example or two. “That’s all” is much, much funnier.
Need a Explanation?
(Gestures vaguely in the air)
Microsoft Teams: Awww, come on, you just motioned all of me.
