Things didn’t end well for the last guy…
“let them eat cake” -Elon Musk
Why do they have to work? Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?
Or just run them without TSA, like we used to before 9/11
Because people need to eat.
Also, some air travel is essential.
Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?
Lol the idea of a medical courier waiting in line at the TSA rummaging through their organ containers because they flagged it sus in the x-ray machine.
They said shut down the airport. That includes couriers.
Are you trying to imply…that the medical couriers …are transporting …food?
You do know that ‘also’ is a word used to separate two different points, right?
Yeah but implying that medical couriers are selling their payloads on a cannibal black market is juicer than a fat mans liver.
With some fava beans.
And a nice chianti.
I’m not?
Juicer than a fat mans liver? I dunno man I never met you.
It would be a lot cooler if you were
They are only doing it in the first place because they need to eat
Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?
The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered settled in an emergency meeting because they have places they want to go
You one comment ago:
Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?
You this comment:
The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered
Which is it? Does it make sense to shut down U.S. airports or is that something that wouldn’t happen?
You think they pass by tsa?
No, hence why I said shutting down airports
Theater of security isn’t helpful anyway. I say it’s even harmful, as it makes cars more attractive over public transport and get more shit in our lungs as result.
You’re kind of missing the point
Unfortunately it wouldn’t come to removal of said theater, it will leed to unpaid employees doing a bad job
Indeed. Doing other way around is much better.
I get it, but having people feel bad for the TSA of all organizations is a tall order. Why not pick a less controversial gov agency effected like say the National Parks and Museums?
Probably because parks and museums usually just close whenever this happens, so they’re not working without pay. They’re just on an indefinite suspension
And yet I can feel for them more, If the TSA was gone tomorrow I could not care.
The way it setup it will not mean the removal of the stupid safety theater, it will mean the closing of the airport.
I know, and that makes me even less inclined to have sympathy for the TSA as a whole. I know I should feel bad for the people working at the TSA, but I can’t.
But they’re going to get paid when the budget is approved again, right?
It’s a problem for who lives paycheck to paycheck, though
Most people making 50k are working 4th-next-paycheck to 5th-next-paycheck tho.
two memes in one post?
So is a South African buying his way into the U.S. presidency, but here we are.
Can’t build a wall tall enough for southafrica. Us Mex people know that.
this is why we need a wall tall enough to keep planes out /s
But that would required…a constellation of satellites capable of carrying a net that would wall off the country! Who could makr such a thing?
You know, I’ve heard of a solution to the CEO problem recently thats making the news cycle…
“Oh you’re not gonna pay me today? Guess I’m not working today.”
I can’t imagine coming in to work if I’m not being paid on time. Indeed, if there’s even a whiff of maybe I won’t get paid, I’m not coming in unless I’m paid in advance.
Every government worker that is told they’re not getting paid should do that. Money in my account now, before I come in to work.
Love this attitude. The harsh reality is, not everyone is a kid working at maccas and they have families to feed and bills to pay.
Not much difference toward feeding family or paying bills if you’re not getting paid. Better to take the time off and find a new job.
True, but isn’t this just late payment? It’s still absolutely abhorrent and I’d be fucking furious, I’m just saying a lot of people aren’t in a position to just leave. Getting paid a week late is better than losing your pay for 2-4 weeks while you look for another job.
There is no guarantee that they will get paid. For that to happen, congress will have to pass a spending bill that not only authorized future spending but also explicitly gives back pay for the time they were working without paying after the shutdown.
So far this has always happened, but I do remember some noises about not doing it around the last shutdown.
So especially after those comments last time, there is no certainty that if you come in to work for the government during a shutdown you will be paid.
There’s a reason the country lost credit rating, and it’s because people are slightly less confident that it will actually pay its debts, including simple payroll.
The more I think about it, the more I can see this is a really good example of Hanlon’s razor.
If they were evil, they would not tell you they’re not paying you. They simply wouldn’t pay you. They’re actually stupid because they told people they expect them to work without getting paid.
I’m voting “both evil and stupid.” That is, modern Republicans.
Ok, but they can’t: for TSA not working is their job description. They work by not working.
The Wu Wei method of airport security
At least half of them voted for that. 🤷
How bout they just dont show up? The TSA is a fraudulent agency anyway. Pre-9/11 security worked just fine.
And if someone is going to hijack a plane to pilot it into a building, i doubt their mission would depend on a large tube of toothpaste and a nail clipper
“Heh heh heh, finally, I can sneak enough explosive toothpaste into the plane!”
That’s the terrorists right now, how do you feel now, huh? It’s not a joke. TSA is extremely serious. 😤
But TSA is a sham. Pure theater and makework.
Sure, but people still go there to try and make money for their livelyhood, sham or not they don’t deserve to be unpaid.
Bullshit jobs for a bullshit way of life.
No, but they also deserve to do meaningful work, which the TSA is not. They should morph the agency and personnel into something that actually serves a function beyond security theater.
Agree. TSA could be doing more meaningful work for the amount spent
They don’t deserve to be put on mind-numbing pretend work.
We need to teach him to be scared of us.
He made a bunch of his cars bulletproof and even a couple that can withstand a chemical attack. I think he’s been scared the whole time.
His personal cars or do you mean the cybertruck? Because if it’s the latter then it’s not quite as bulletproof as advertised.
Yeah him to hold still until the end of time.
Good luck. He can afford a personal army to protect him.
There are more of us.
With military-grade weapons? I doubt it.
With how loosy-goosy the US is with weapons purchasing? There’s a chance.
There’s also a chance that Musk’s security forces will spray bullets into the crowd from sniper positions.
If that ever happened, itd push the guillotines out overnight.
Sure it would. Just like all the other “if this happens, the guillotines will come out” events where that didn’t occur when it happened.
Remember when the goverment was first shut down in a long time, if ever before, when Republicans thought it would be a good ratfucker move to harm Obama’s presidency, and it blew up in their faces, and our Country went from a AAAA rated borrower to a AAA borrower due to government disfunction? We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding. It pisses me off so much. Imagine getting paid a significant amount of tax payer money, a life long sipend, and better health care than most the county, and not even doing your job and letting the goverment shut down. At some point here the lawlessness is going to convince enough people that it seriously doesn’t matter anymore.
We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding
What we do in Australia is of the government can’t pass a budget we dissolve the government and go for elections.
Clearly the MP are not doing their jobs so make them run for their jobs again.That works in a parliamentary system, because the state and the government are two different things. In the U.S. system, they are functionally the same thing. We can’t dissolve the government, or we’d have to rebuild the entire state apparatus from the ground up.
Why doesn’t the “no new wars!” gang cut military spending by 65-80%? Defense readiness doesn’t cost $800B/ year.
Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding.
This is exactly what happened a few days ago in France. While it’s not perfect, it’s still a whole lot better than a shutdown.
Ruining the holidays for a bunch of government employees, not just TSA. I am more worried about air traffic controllers, NASA, NOAA, FDA, the VA (yeah they suck, but a lot of people depend on them and making them work unpaid is definitely not going to improve anything), and thousands of other government employees that will go without pay. The longer it lasts, the worse it will be for the economy.
Damn. Imagine just showing up to work knowing you won’t be paid, with a bunch of other coworkers who are in the exact same socio-economic hostage crisis.
Gotta wonder if there’s some kind of organizational remedy. Like… a collection of workers who could all respond together as a single labor unit to demand a different set of policies on pain of withholding their labor until their demands are met.
I’ve heard of these! They’re called onions!
Like an ogre, they have layers.
I am old enough to remember when Reagan used military and scabs to bust the air traffic controllers’ strike. Hopefully this time people won’t cross picket lines.
There’s no picket lines, because there’s no organizing and no threat of a strike. Reagan did his work and Clinton/Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden made sure it stuck.
More likely what we’re going to see isn’t a single unified organized effort, but a bunch of individuals just walking off the job or phoning it in because they’re too demoralized to continue doing these thankless jobs. Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit.
Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated. Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it, cause they are about to have a serious illegal immigration problem.
Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated.
Excited to see the biggest rug-pull in US history when that back half fails to materialize.
Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it
The Canadian far-right is such a fucking joke. They want to be American so badly. Far from building a wall, I suspect they’ll be the ones shoving open the gates if we ever get a President deranged enough to try an annexation.
There will be “education,” but the traditional description for it is indoctrination.
Two sides of the same coin. The distinction between the two is primarily whether you consider the information conveyed beneficial or nefarious.
Either way, Americans are already the most propagandized people on earth. You don’t need to send people to college to indoctrinate them. You’ve got consumer-grade mass media doing the job just fine.
Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit
The big difference will be that those jobs can’t be replaced as easily. ATC had quasi-analogous people in the military, and the only real match there is the VA. The issue is the amount of military doctors/nurses working in the armed forces does not compare to the civilian side. For the rest? NASA/NOAA/FDA have one-if-not-none person that may be able to substitute in.
With that thought, I’d be more than willing to place money on this being one of the thrusts of the idiotic doge. Why have national parks? Why care about food and drug quality? Healthcare for vets? Bahahaha, the money overlords care about their own supply, which they can ensure with their money. Everything there is focused solely on the peons, which have no meaning to the people pulling these strings.
Just a reminder that Elon Musk is not from the United States.
…which is why he had to buy a president instead of buy the presidency.
He’s legally a US citizen by way of his mother.
Nevermind how much “god damn those evil foreigners are at it again” rhetoric makes me gag. Peter Thiel and Marc Andressen are fully American and they suck just as hard. If anything, the problem isn’t Elon, its Stanford University and the endless line of factory produced insane far-right techbro degenerates that it rolls out which gave us our modern hellscape.
