Musk and Vivek haven’t learned the lesson yet. Trump can do whatever he wants, but he can’t say whatever he wants.
The few times Trump has been booed by the faithful is when he’s deviated from the MAGA dogma. You can import all the workers you want, but you have to say you’re deporting everyone. As long as Trump claims he’s rounding up all the immigrants and getting rid of them if you try to confront MAGATs with doubling H1B visa numbers they’ll scream “fake news”, no matter how much evidnece they’re shown.
These people are stupid, but they need to be pandered to.
But fascists never turn on each other. /s
So, if my history knowledge serves me well, the first thing a populist dictator does is to get rid of the people who brought them into power, I guess we are there now.
I honestly don’t think Trump is a dictator, he’s too self serving and too old.
Musk though… He’s full of himself, yeah, but more ideologically driven. I’m way more worried about him.
Yeah exactly, he infiltrated maga’s nationalism to implement his own neoliberal ideas.
Now there is a clash, and usually in America the one doing the bribing gets their way.
To add, I think he’s in probably one of the best places to enact his nonsense. Direct line to trump with virtually no accountability. If he sticks around it’ll be incredibly dangerous regardless.
Why would being self serving and old disqualify him from being a dictator?
He’s behavior so far seems consistent with dictatorship. Disregarding laws, undermining democracy, promising protection for those who fall in line and retribution for those who don’t, surrounding himself with yes-men… and I could go on for a while
Ok. He’s not wrong in this case, but who other than a comic book villain uses the phrase, “contemptible fools?”
I wondered if he twirled his mustache in an especially fey way, LOL?
I keep saying, the dude is Ironmonger. Just like Ironmonger, Musky wants to be Tony Stark so fucking badly.
If he could grow a moustache long enough to have pointy ends, he could twist them while gloating.
Called it, a few days ahead of schedule. This is gonna be “fun”
Please tell me that their mutual annihilation is a possible outcome.
I feel like this is the GOPs most elaborate example they could come up with on why it doesn’t work to have “two daddies”.
For people used to being called “deplorables” by Democrats,
Oh, please - we call them “MAGAts”.
I prefer fascists but I like precision
Here’s to hoping they all die.
Personally, I hope they all sit around bickering for the next four years, so they do as little damage as possible
I agree with the sentiment but this is an extremely monkey’s paw phrasing.
I’m fine with the cleansing purity of Atom
Please god let there be a shadow/nanny government that hides the keys to the nuuuukes
Right after the election I called it that the infighting will start before Trump takes office, and it did.
They’re not going to get the votes in both houses to really do any of the shit they want to, and they’re going to lose big in midterms, with a decent chance of losing both houses.
Setting us up for a great chance in 2028 against a non incumbent to get the presidency and decent majorities.
It’s why the upcoming DNC chair election is so important, we need to start planning now and putting things in motion so we can capitalize at every step instead of not giving a shit for 3 years.
We need a party that never stops working, because the fascists will never stop, they’ll always come back as soon as people stop paying attention.
The DNC won’t save us, lol
The GOP certainly isn’t going to do anything positive so the chair selection is quite important.
The chair will go to the most republican-adjacent candidate like always.
I’m skeptical DNC. Unless they start fighting dirty and campaigning like the GoP, instead of campaigning like its 1950 and sucking up to billionares too, they are going to keep losing elections.
People see what’s filtered through their feeds now, and that chaos isn’t going to register much with voters. Just like it (mostly) didn’t in the last few elections.
That’s weird. Isnt one of the criticisms that they wasted this last election calling people weird and not giving much on their platform? Seems like a very Republican campaign, full of name calling and “concepts of ideas”
I’m skeptical DNC.
Unless we get a last minute pro-corpo candidate, the worst that’s really possible is Martin O’Malley, who definitely isn’t my first choice but he barely has any ties to the last rements of the neoliberal old guard. I’m fairly confident he’d still make all the right calls tho
The other three serious candidate would all be great, although Ben Wilker is my ideal.
and that chaos isn’t going to register much with voters
They’re all rage addicted…
This won’t stay a fight between Musk and trump, or even MAGA/Corpo Politicians.
Crypto bros on Twitter and red hats in Alabama will be actively going after each other the entire time, it probably already is. They don’t have to be shown the chaos, they’ll be part of it.
I’m thinking it will be a repeat of his first time. He had majorities in both houses and couldn’t get any major policies through because of infighting. With wich a slim majority I think we’ll see the same thing.
I thought we’d at least get to Trump’s inauguration before the major infighting started. The next 4 years will be brutal. I hold on to some optimism that we’ll make it through but it’s going to be hard.
There is hope that despite them better knowing how the government works than the last time, they are still ultimately too stupid, stubborn, and unlikable to achieve their goal at dismantling democracy. They will do a lot of lasting damage though.
The shutdown negotiations served as a reminder to me that no matter how popular Trump may be and how charismatic he may be perceived as by some, he’s ultimately fucking terrible at politics.
That’s a reminder alarm that must go off near constantly.
Abandon hope
At least he didn’t call them deplorable like some sort of coastal elite.
The coastal elite thing was always real rich to me. The same people who gripe about the coastal elite somehow chose a billionaire new york real estate tycoon, whos whole personal brand for the past 40 years has been gold plated, cartoonishly decadent, opulence.
Yep. Republicans bitch all the time about Hollywood liberals interfering in politics, meanwhile they’ve put actors and game show hosts in the white house with reliably disastrous results.
I think her real crime was making them learn a new word.
He’s not a coastal elite because he’s clearly mentally deficient. They see themselves in him.
He sure did try to fit in with that group for a very long time.
If you are having any conservative Christmas/new years gatherings left, now’s the time to subtly make them aware of these dichotomies to cause disillusionment with MAGA.
“You like Elon Musk? He loves immigrant labour at his companies and censored conservative figures on his free speech platform X who had disagreed.”
Personally, I keep mentioning donvict’s plans to tax almost everything we buy - at 60% - 100%, apparently. I just mention that I made some purchases before donvict’s taxes will probably kick in, if he was serious about what he said.
So far, I’ve just gotten kind of puzzled stares or silence, followed by an attempt to change the subject. The second group is at least aware enough to know a tariff = tax, I guess. The first are probably the ones that have no IDEA about the tariff plans, or foolishly think China is going to be paying the tax.
Eat each other and save the rest of us the hassle.
I propose a new word:
Autoluigification.
Totally with you. “Luigi” is now a verb.
