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I mean, that demo model looks like a hot mess of ripples and artefacts from this angle.
Was wondering when someone would finally do it. Rollable phones next, please?
Ever since the first foldable screens were announced in the 2010s, I’ve had this idea for a cylindrical tube-shaped phone. Tube contains the battery, cameras, buttons, and ports. Pull on a tab and the screen rolls out. Pull a little more, and now the screen is tablet-sized. Like unraveling a roll of film. I could see this design replacing foldables.
The only part I haven’t figured out yet is how to make the screen rigid enough for use. Maybe using some sort of chain-link latching system?
Looking forward to the HTC Torah
Maybe get that patent sorted out quickly?
I have a better idea: a laptop screen that is legible on a sunny day
I have an even better idea: A built in webcam that has more an 2 damn pixels
Honest question. Why do you need a selfie camera on a laptop that’s more than 2MP? I don’t even think Teams/Zoom/Jitsi/etc can stream that much anyway.
I’ve had times where I need to take a photo of a piece of paper to turn in online for school. You can’t read the text if you hold it up to the camera, atleast on my modern laptop.
Also just because it was literally like ~850 bucks (iirc), it should be able to take a decent photo for that insane of a price.You’d probably be better off using your phone for taking photos of papers. Better camera, better angle/lighting, generally better editing options (with default photo apps, imo Photoshop is overkill for taking a picture of a document, generally I only adjust brightness and contrast). The only downside is needing to get the photo to the laptop, but there’s about a million ways to do that depending on your setup.
The built-in cameras use cases are video conferences, so they use the “afterthought” cameras (cheapest they can). I understand your use case, and I agree that the camera quality is shite, never mind the MP count. My 2005 phone shouldn’t have had a camera better than my 2024 laptop. Period.
so eink pretty much though the refresh rate is shit
Funny you should say that because Lenovo made a laptop with an e-ink screen (as graciously linked by someone else in this thread) about a year ago. But it never came to my market, and I suspect this rollable one won’t either. I don’t think they’re serious about selling any of these, it’s just marketing gimmicks.
Can you make it more ugly and prone to mechanical failure for no gain.
slaps screen
you can fit so much “AI” in this bad boy
More like:
Slaps Screen:
Screen flashes in colors only a Mantis Shrimp can see before folding in half and going black…
A lot of current laptop designs are leaving free space around the battery so more AI can be poured in at a later date, through a dedicated nipple presumably.
And more expensive while you’re at it, thanks.
Best we can do is never actually release it.
Put your pre-order in now!
The no gain part I’ll argue against. Having two browser windows open and getting to see both would be really nice a ton of times. Or one browser and a document/pdf whatever.
Like having a Netflix show running up top while doing work on the bottom half. Or writing a paper while having reference material open and visible. Or simply just reading an article without having to scroll as often.
Usage wise, a tall screen would have tons of usage. I just wouldn’t pay an extra $2,000+ for the privilage of it. I’d definitely pay like an extra 20% or so to have it, though.
I have a lenovo external usb-c monitor.
I love it. Use it every day. It’s great.
I’d never buy this rolling screen gimmick.
I’d never want to carry around a 2nd monitor or find a place to set it when using a "lap"top. A 2nd monitor is great for a desktop.
That’s fine, you do you and all that.
The thing is, laptops haven’t been "lap"tops for many years. Many workplaces have infrastructure where you carry your laptop around and dock it into your desktop monitors & peripherals at your desk.
I personally really like to work at our public library. In my backpack I have the laptop, monitor, keyboard, and mouse. It’s a really great set up and I can be just as productive as I am in my home office.
I had thought when I posted that to put ‘no justifiable gain’ but did not for some reason, maybe it ruined the flow but with hindsight and as you and others have explained perhaps it should be there.
Probably. As you originally wrote it, it just looks like you think the screen is pointless.
I do think it is a bit gimmicky and the problem it seeks to address could be more practically solved in other more conventional ways, but it is an attempt and a first iteration and has merit for that and who knows where it will end up, maybe all our screens will expand and contract like the windows within them one day.
Solved in what other ways? Having a portable laptop you have to carry around with a 2nd monitor and find a place to set up is a pain if you actually do stuff on the go and aren’t just using your laptop to move from like a desk at home to a desk at your office.
I wouldn’t say no gain. I would love that real estate on my bedside stand I use with physical disability. I would not want the sub 17" form factor and keyboard though. I struggle to do anything super technical without a second screen which is a pain in the ass. I can’t sit at a desktop and the ergonomics of a laptop are unbeatable in my situation.
It looks like when it’s extended it adds a second screen. But it’s vertical, one on top of the other. I feel like doing it horizontally would be more natural to use. Baby steps, I guess.
I have a monitor on a custom made arm that sits above my laptop when I need a second screen.
It works well in a tight space like in a board meeting at a conference table or plane seat. Vertical doesn’t make a real difference in my experience. You just need two spaces that do not move so that you can quickly reference multiple documents and keep your place between them.
Good point. I was thinking of best use case, but really whatever works will do.
The fuck would you even do with a taller screen?
If you are a developer, writing code, the taller screen helps.
My three monitor set up is two landscape monitors on the sides of one glorious portrait monitor for my code.
Taller porn…
Just a huge portrait screen to to doom scroll through Facebook reels and instagram stories probably
Two or more windows on top of each other. Have you never even put a monitor on its side to get more vertical space?
As a Dev that needs some communication with a team, documentation and potentially a video for entertainment whilst working. Monitors that are taller are great. The LG dual up is my holy grail right now.
Just treat like side by side screens, so browser and code.
Yeah I can, add a hinge and swivel so it can go widescreen too
Oh there’ll be gain. But not for the user.
Bring back the trackpoint you bastards !
They didn’t take the TrackPoint away, did they?!
Edit: They really did… Way to kill a brand guys. I blame every goddamn tech journalist who wanted it gone, fuck you so much.
We need track points on handheld PCs. Are they patented?
No, as far as I know the first GPD Win had one even
I blame every goddamn tech journalist who wanted it gone
Weird if heir PMs and such really believed people who are clearly companies’ PR and not representation of anything real, instead of focus groups.
It really seems like every other review of a ThinkPad is written by someone who’s constantly whining about the dimensions of the device (too thick, to bulky) and/or the design, with most of them ending up begging Lenovo to remove the useless nub thing on the keyboard because no one uses it anyways and while they’re at it a larger touchpad and better speakers and bla bla…
Basically, most reviewers expect everything to be a MacBook clone and can’t cope with the fact that business users don’t necessarily care about a fancy design.
The reasons old ThinkPads were are better than MacBooks (except for being old) are about design too.
For me ThinkPads are beautiful and convenient, while MacBooks are ugly and inconvenient.
Most people simply don’t have an opinion of their own, they get theirs from “social media influencers” (something that once meant the leaders of that clueless crowd, usually bribed by companies, and now means in fact not separate humans, but teams, employed by companies).
And that’s where Apple shined, it really managed to promise apes a lift in status by backing them. Almost a Fender Stratocaster level feeling. Not just that, if you do some digital archaeology, you’ll find that around year 1999 many people seriously considered Apple to be some kind of counterculture, underground etc thing. That doesn’t work anymore, because Steve Jobs lost the battle against his own ignorance and died, but frankly I think it stopped working after iPhone. Wrong kind of propaganda and wrong kind of audience to be compatible with the old image.
Still that image was rather strong. One can still sometimes find traces of it. Hotline and KDX software, and that idea of convenience of GUI programs.
RIP nubbin
It’s the thinkpad x9 for anyone that wondered the model.
And the three buttons!
What the fuck do you even do on a tall scree… Oh its basically a portable vertical monitor
I use dual monitors one on top of each other. If I had this I would simply stack 2 windows.
How expensive is it anyway isn’t it just better to get a second monitor if you have to?
Can they make laptops with hinges that don’t break?
To be fair, Lenovo also made the ThinkPad. You could throw those down a flight of stairs and they wouldn’t break
Source: I once dropped a thinkpad down a flight of stairs.
Thank you for reminding me of Thinkpads. I’d like to track down a used or refurbished one for home use to survive kiddos
Meh I reckon 75% of that was IBM. I also had an ideapad that would survive literally nothing
They can, my x230’s hinges are still good
I’ve had two Thinkpads ~15 years and neither had hinges break. The first died due to water damage (the water protection can only do so much), and the second has been with me for almost 7 years now. Both were carried around in backpacks, dropped a few times (current one has a chip from falling off the counter onto a hard floor too many times), and the current one has been abused by young children (slamming the lid, standing on it, etc).
If you’re buying a Lenovo laptop that’s not a Thinkpad, I don’t know what to tell you, that’s on you.
T-series?
First was T-series, second is E-series because the T-series had eliminated expendability and moved to soldered RAM.
I also got a Yoga, which was a pile of trash. The hinge broke after a couple years, and the CPU was bad when I bought it (only got it because I needed one when I was away from home). I don’t know how the other models are, but that experience gives me some sits in serious concerns, especially given how heavily advertised it was.
I have no idea if the current E-series or T-series are worth getting, but the ones I got were pretty good (T440 and E495).
I want a laptop with a trackpoint, keyboard with good (like Model M) key travel and resistance (and water resilience too), color e-ink display (preferably 5:4 or 4:3 screen ratio) with good refresh rate, everything removable, 5G modem, GPIO, additional SSD slot, good set and amount of interfaces (not an Apple fan), and - important - chassis and hinges not made of shit.
Just in case somebody from Lenovo is lurking here.
like Model M
Imagine a laptop with a low-profile buckling spring keyboard… just click-clacking away in Starbucks, annoying everyone around you but you don’t care because you have the greatest keyboard ever
They can be silent too, so not even that problem.
Also where I sometimes go with a laptop, nobody will hear the click-clacking.
Not to mention it would weigh about 2kg more than a normal laptop due to the steel plates.
I totally wouldn’t mind that. My daily driver keyboard is an XT Model F lmao
Why?
Bigger screen without bigger form factor?
Why not?
They’re completely out of ideas.
I’d be happy with a gaming laptop that doesn’t have hinges that break.
Lenovo might turn your hinge into a screen but giving you a hinge that works is to complicated.
Lenovo is really good at turning the coolest technology into absolutely useless laptops.
Short rolling demo from the article https://youtube.com/watch?v=ibpaLkvBXQY
Oh wow, the wrinkles would drive me nuts.
Also, why extend it vertically?
Lmao they really put a coffee cup alongside it, as if unrolling your laptop display like this at a Starbucks would be perfectly normal
Seems like a cool idea, but those screens aren’t really ready for this type of prime time.
Foldable phone screens have been around for 5 years, flexible screens longer than that. The tech has been around and ready there’s just not heavy adoption yet.
It seems ideal for wristwear.
It’s been around, and is ready for some implementations, but it’s not ready for prime time, and, IMO, a $3400 laptop is prime time.
Bring back the unfolding keyboard (and the gummy trackpoint). 😂
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