Summary
In a Fox News interview, Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion, claiming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should have made a deal with Vladimir Putin.
Trump criticized Zelenskyy for choosing to fight, compared the military strength of Russia and Ukraine, and said he could have ended the war quickly through negotiations.
Trump’s stance contrasts with Joe Biden’s strong support for Ukraine, including aid and sanctions on Russia.
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Ukraine HAD a deal with Russia ensuring its peace and its borders. It was called the Budapest Memorandum. Russia was the one violating the deal Russia had agreed to.
I think you’re confused that was the treaty that said NATO couldn’t come within four thousand miles of its borders and what about Biden’s Ukrainian money laundering bio-facilities?
Youbare forgetting also the warcrimes of Umranians where they have time travel labs yhey use to travel back in time to kill baby jesus every day and internet hacking centers used to force musk do awkward gestures. Truly the axis of evil.
I didn’t forget anything I just was listing stuff in order of importance.
You also forget Ukranian corrupt camera lens factories sabotaging all cameras worldwide in order to make the earth seem not flat.
There should be a geopolitical literacy meter that has a red sector named after Donny-boy.
Gotta add another line to the list of civ 5 victory score ranges below Dan Quayle
Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless…
Why people keep listening to what that
beingturd says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless…ftfy
That being controls almost 50% of the world’s nuclear arsenal. That’s why.
“Just lay there and take it.” Is Trump’s motto
It sounds right in content and in him not knowing that lay is a transitive verb.
A WHAT-itive verb?!?
-shits out a new Executive Order-
Of course the convicted felon would say that Ukraine should just lie down and let Russia grab 'em by the country.
Honestly I’m more worried about the NATO 5% thing which is blatantly designed to fracture the alliance.
The number was 2%, and many didn’t hit that. 5% is never going to happen and is going to be Trump’s cause to pull out, mark my words. Thankfully Congress put some stops in there, but doesn’t mean Trump can’t fuck things up bigly.
Ukraine can schlump along with NATO sans USA, but no NATO and Ukraine is finished.
What American doesn’t jump at the chance to fight Russia?
Conservatives
They both have nukes
There are days when the nukes would be preferable to the endless news cycle of stupidity. Would you like to play a game?
Yes but I prefer chess to Global Thermonuclear War
‘Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world, EH?’
‘It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.’
America hasn’t had to deal with the recieving end of Imperialism for almost 250 years. (its been on the giving end of it for the last century) America is in no position, not Trump, not Elon, not Biden, not the dude that just wants to grill. None of them are in a position to tell someone not to fight for freedom, when there is an actual threat of losing ones freedom and sovereignty. Most western countries have long forgotten what the struggle is all about because they’ve had their freedom for centuries.
Ukraine’s fight has been going on for centuries, but 2022-Present has been the defining moment of that fight.
If you aren’t going to help, shut the fuck up, and fuck off and let the rest of us handle it. Ukraine isn’t going to stop fighting for its existence just because Part of America is tired and upset about superficial things like egg prices. If America isn’t going to carry the torch of Liberty, there are plenty of others willing to take it from here.
Europe is having its issues too. It seems like the people are mad about taxes already, and aren’t keen on the prospect on increasing them for military spending. They’ve already run huge deficits for COVID.
Many other powers are either not interested in this particular fight or can’t afford to be.
I hate to sound so cynical, but I think Zelensky is smart to “work with” Trump (aka manipulate him) instead of denouncing him and kicking him to the curb like his country has every right to, because the drive to fight only goes so far against a truly genocidal adversary.
This is literally all the “anti war” arguments. George Washington should have just stopped resisting the red coats.
Washington was part of a revolution. This is an invasion. More like Russia should have just let Napoleon have it.
Sure, but that makes it entirely unrelatable to the Americans making these arguments.
Fair enough. How about this?
It’s like letting the SCARY EVIL (mysteriously suddenly nonexistent) IMMIGRANT MEXICAN CARAVAN INVADERS just come in and have the US.
Are they eating our pets though?
Not if you eat them first!
I wish I could eat my puppies and have their scruffy faces and waggy tails with me all the time! Petting them would be difficult…
😋
Obviously. That’s what brown people do, right? The clearly authoritative (checks notes) rich white Nazi on TV told me.
So Ukraine, hear me out… Eliminate Trump and Putin during the negotiations, blame it on someone else. Everyone will thank you, and we’ll get over it.
I’m sure at this point if Zelenskyy pulled out a wellrod, popped both of them and said “Slava Ukraini” there would be a round of applause.
If he does this, I’m getting Heroiam Slava tattooed on my chest.
i honestly don’t think anyone would put him to trial. like suddenly everyone you know was with the president of ukraine at the time of the incident. and sure, that’s not what questions the ICC would be asking, but that’s what we’d all be saying
It would almost certainly be a requirement to prosecute and then likely lock Zelenskyy up if he did that, even if he might be doing us all a favour. And even the nicest prison is still a prison.
It would be better if there was a way to have the targets neutralise each other.
Requirement from whom? Who would enforce it?
I know the obvious answer is the ICC, but they currently have warrants for both Putin and Netanyahu, so clearly that’s not an effective threat.
Vance. I think he and his puppet masters would love the excuse to join with putin’s past allies. Russia gets the land, united states of stupid gets
half the resourcescontracts to aid in building the ‘infrastructure’ and such to process the resources.Straight up killing a known criminal is not the accepted way to mete out justice, no matter how right it seems. We have (international) courts for a reason, even when the case is open and shut, and even if the same courtesy would be unlikely if the situation was reversed.
You’ll have millions/billions of people willing to be your alibi. “According to people calling in, Zelensky was at 300,000 bars, sleeping on 1,250,000 couches, and attending 13 Bar Mitvahs that night, so he couldn’t have killed Trump and Putin.”
"Absolutely top-notch guy. Literally omnipresent.
Like me and all my friends were having individualized, concurrent, and meaningful bottle episodes with the guy.
Just the consummate gentleman."
Downside is you’ll have JD Vance as president. Unsure that’ll be any better.
I’m not sure anybody would rally behind him. He had the lowest likability score of any VP pick since 2000 - even below Sarah “I Can See Russia From My House!” Palin.
Palin was rocking the MILF vibe and, for better or worse, took her conservative creds mostly seriously.
Vance is date rapey, nakedly ambitious, and completely owned by Thiel.
Vance has a brain, which is both scarier and more reassuring at the same time.
Vance has no political capital like Trump. He doesn’t have a cult he can use to threaten to primary people. Once Trump is gone all of this loses momentum.
Will be interesting to watch the power vacuum when Trump dies. It will be a great opportunity for the democrats to make progress. I’m sure they’ll find a way to fuck that up too.
JD Vance only eats the cat food part of lucky charms pass it on
OK. good. good.
The problem is who will replace them. Does Putin even have an official successor (like the US VP), or would this create a power vacuum?
The Prime Minister is de jure the acting president in case of a vacancy. Given the strength of legal institutions in Russia Mikhail Mishustin would have some work ahead of him to actually hold power.
So president of a nation that has the motto “give me liberty or give me death” is saying this.
The people who voted for him tend to prefer “Don’t tread on me” which makes it even more ironic.
Well yeah, the full saying is “Don’t tread on me, tread on ukraine instead”. They just shortened it
Any time I see those stickers, flags or license plates I have a deep urge to reenact the curb stomping scene from American History X using the person who has it/them.
Ugh. I guess it’s starting. Anyone placing bets on how long before Trump does a complete about-face on the situation and starts running joint missions with Russia against Ukraine? I’m morbidly suspicious that might really be how things end up.
This isn’t exactly a secret. Remember in the debate when he said he’d end the war, and refused to say which side he’d be on?
The annoying orange should not be discussing matters he knows shit about…
But then the only things he can talk about are rape, treason, paying for sex, and shitting his pants
Golden showers
Dude come on. That’s not true.
He also cheats at golf a lot.
That’s impossible, because he can’t keep quiet.
And knows shit
