• @[email protected]
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    Speaking as a developer myself, it’s likely not the devs’ fault that Teams is as shit as it is. They are all intimately familiar with its shortcomings and are perfectly able and willing to fix them, but are prevented from doing so by management who insist that shovelling crapware down their customers’ throats is far more important.

    • @dejected_warp_core
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      Honestly, what I find frustrating with Teams is that both MSN Messenger and Skype were right there. It’s not even an issue of copyright or trademark as MS owns both. Even just lazily re-branding Skype would have been head-and-shoulders above what we have now.

    • @raspberriesareyummy
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      Then again, in a world that needs developers badly everywhere, a developer that stays in a job where management forces them to maintain crappy software, is an idiot (or plain greedy). /also a developer

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          Not in Europe - for now. Will be different of course if fascist America murders us all over here. Or Putler. Doesn’t make much of a difference in the end…

      • @marcos
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        Teams has even an internal micromanager that reports to your boss how “productive” you have been (read, how fast you are typing in Office apps).

            • @[email protected]
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              12 hours ago

              Almost certainly. If people saw how little I actually do on most days I wouldn’t have a job. I just call myself then switch my status back to available so my dot stays green all day.

    • LiveLM
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      278 hours ago

      Because it’s bundled in their office subscriptions

    • @[email protected]
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      97 hours ago

      Microsoft bundles all of their software in a way that makes it much more expensive to pick and choose which software you want from Microsoft and which one you would want from someone else. It’s a very similar strategy to that of Adobe.

    • @Cornelius_Wangenheim
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      Because it’s essentially free and hooks into the existing MS tools for data retention, data loss prevention, security monitoring, etc.

  • @TBi
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    When teams first came out it was good. And Skype was crap.

    I think when they killed Skype they pulled that team in to help Teams which led to the current situation.

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    What else could he say to not be thrown out? Dude works at Microsoft

      • @Juvyn00b
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        22 hours ago

        The only real issue I have with zoom is how it immediately dumps you into the call with your previous settings. Sometimes (most times) I’d rather start with the microphone muted. I’m not a regular user though, just when third party meetings get kicked off.

  • @Illegalmexicant
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    I used Planner in the past. Its integration with teams makes a webcam pointed at a white board a lot better.

    • Nightwatch Admin
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      Planner can no longer be connected to outlook and thus probably no longer to teams as well. Though I am not exactly sure a fan of any of these, connecting Planner was helpful.

  • @Fades
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    Especially the mobile app, fucking trash

    • @joel_feila
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      First of every month we start new exel books. Simple set up, 1 page per day, 1 per book, 1 year per folder.

      So lets say my first day if the month is the third. I come in, open edge, teams etc etc. thrn i have open the new exel files. So what do i do, do i search spot pick up jan. Nope that obly shows files from years ago. Do search for 2025? Nope that won’t up the January spot pick 2025 file. I have yo click through the whole dam file system in teams. Why cant search work!

      Good we don’t use for anything else.

    • @[email protected]
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      The interface is terrible and nothing works like it should. Example. So I’ve got a shared folder which I set up in Teams and I mount it in OneDrive. I used OneDrive to populate it, ignoring the folder called “General” because what’s the fucking point of that? You can’t delete the “General” folder which seemed odd. So I’ve been happily sending out links to documents in my file structure, not realising that my colleagues had no idea there was even a folder structure there. The reason? Fucking Teams defaults to showing the empty “General” folder so people think there’s nothing there. I can’t move stuff into it because it would break the links. I can’t create a shortcut because they don’t work in teams - it just downloads a file when you click on it. So I’ve created a file in “general” with the title “click on the link next to the word General above to get to the files.txt”. Very professional. And don’t get me started on the miserable abomination that is Outlook.

      And people have the absolute fucking gall to say that open source UI is bad.

    • @marcos
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      Are you the project’s lead developer or something?

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      It’s just the hive mind of people unable to think for themselves. It works perfectly fine for organising communication and files within projects, but it’s MS so everyone must hate it such is the law of these people.

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      Everything. From UI to server. Including Forms and stream. They all suck hard.

      Everytime I open teams, I am greeted with “You need to login again to continue” button, which doesn’t even work.

      • @[email protected]
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        56 hours ago

        That sounds like your workplaces network issue, not teams. The only time I have to relogin is after I leave the VPN’d wifi of the office building. But the button works

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          my org’s Teams is accessible from outside the network, so I guess it’s impossible

          Most likely their Firefox support is horrible

          • @marcos
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            Nope, that problem happens on Edge too.

    • Rolivers
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      29 hours ago

      Chat and video calling is fine. Everything else is hot steaming garbage.

    • @SendMePhotos
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      213 hours ago

      I’ve used it here and there but my job isn’t dependent on it. I have no issues with it. 🤷

    • Majorllama
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      They hated him because he spoke the truth.

      Yeah slack is better, but teams isn’t exactly bad.