In a traditional German toilet, the hole into which shit disappears after we flush is right at the front, so that shit is first laid out for us to sniff and inspect for traces of illness. In the typical French toilet, on the contrary, the hole is at the back, i.e. shit is supposed to disappear as quickly as possible. Finally, the American (Anglo-Saxon) toilet presents a synthesis, a mediation between these opposites: the toilet basin is full of water, so that the shit floats in it, visible, but not to be inspected. […] It is clear that none of these versions can be accounted for in purely utilitarian terms: each involves a certain ideological perception of how the subject should relate to excrement. Hegel was among the first to see in the geographical triad of Germany, France and England an expression of three different existential attitudes: reflective thoroughness (German), revolutionary hastiness (French), utilitarian pragmatism (English). In political terms, this triad can be read as German conservatism, French revolutionary radicalism and English liberalism. […] The point about toilets is that they enable us not only to discern this triad in the most intimate domain, but also to identify its underlying mechanism in the three different attitudes towards excremental excess: an ambiguous contemplative fascination; a wish to get rid of it as fast as possible; a pragmatic decision to treat it as ordinary and dispose of it in an appropriate way. It is easy for an academic at a round table to claim that we live in a post-ideological universe, but the moment he visits the lavatory after the heated discussion, he is again knee-deep in ideology.
- Slavoj Žižek
Really expected something about the undertaker and throwing mankind or the like to pop up in this.
Kinda disappointed we didn’t get one
Damn an actual shit post.
Ok that is actually Slavoj Žižek. I had to check.
Easier to poop knife
Apologies for the link to the other side -
https://www.originalpoopknife.com/pages/the-story-of-the-poop-knife
They used to need to check for parasites, in the shattered state of misery that existed after the war.(Edit! This is wrong. TIL.) It’s disgusting, but so is having parasites and not knowing it.Pro tip for US people: Get ready! The world is not inherently a safe and stable place, and if you knock out the supports that are keeping it safe and stable for you, all kinds of really bad shit can happen.
I mean you’re talking to US people who are on Lemmy. We know we’re fucked
Yeah, I’d wager 90% or more of us here that live in the US voted for Kamala, fully knowing the consequences of Trump.
Omg tho did Zuck himself not ban Trump from Meta properties before Biden even became president??! Isn’t Zuck
fully knowing the consequences of Trump
in a way that even stay-home-on-Election-Day Swing Staters don’t?!
IIRC, this design predates 1945, and is not specifically about parasites but digestive health in general. (There were a lot of health fads in late 19th/early 20th-century Germany, some more quackish than others.)
In a way, this is a tribute to longevity of bathroom porcelain. Even in Germany, this is far from modern. If you look e.g. into the bathroom department of German DIY stores, you won’t find this design anymore.
This may be an obscure fact, but World War 2 was not the first time that Germany was ravaged by war.
TIL. That’s wild. I always had just been aware of the rumor that it was from after the war, but yes, it looks like you’re right.
war
I had worms once and I found out only because of this type of toilet. I must have gotten them from a park where I was sitting down on the grass, without a blanket.
Unless there were earthworms in your ass, that’s not how parasitic worms work
Hookworms can be acquired by bare skin against contaminated soil, so it’s theoretically possible, especially if TheBrideWoreCrimson wore their birthday suit
Remember the whole “Ivermectin, the dewormer, helps against Covid” thing in the US? Researchers did look at those claims and came to the completely unsurprising conclusion that, unless you have gut parasites, Ivermectin does not help with anything, including Covid. However, if you do have parasites, the Ivermectin can remove a comorbidity, which is obviously going to help with just about anything, including Covid. (Unless you have the wrong kind of parasite, and the sudden presence of rotting worm corpses throughout your body leads to septic shock…)
My takeaway from that is, modern day Americans probably have a lot more gut parasites than we used to think before Covid.
We Americans don’t actually have an obesity epidemic, we’re just completely full of parasites
Ivermectin is an anti viral too. The real issue is ivermectin only works 90% of the time and the vax works 99%. Now do the math of 330mil at 9%
30.milluon people would die.
You fail to mention that studies of the antiviral properties of Ivermectin showed that the dosage requirements were proported to be higher dosage than what was considered safe and was likely to be toxic. Sure, maybe it can act as an antiviral medicine, but the other thing a medicine must do is, you know, not kill the person using it.
As an edit upon further reading, not only were some of the early studies suggesting dangerous dosage being required to see the affects, laterore rigorous studies showed little evidence it made a difference at all.
The worse part, that only too 2 minutes to google to see dones of papers on the subject, so maybe look into things before you parrot randos on the internet
Ivermectin is a treatment, the vaccine is a defense. You can’t compare them like they do the same thing.
Can you see brain worms, if you use one of these?
republicans certainly can.
Sir, this is a toilet discussion 😂
So you’re saying that Americans may need to develop or start using German toilets in 20-30-40 years time?
You sit on it reverse, and use the tank lid to hold your chocolate milk and comic books.
They call it deutschbombing.
That’s known as a Dutch toilet. It’s designed to allow you to inspect your movements for health concerns more easily than the standard toilet.
If you’re concerned with leaving evidence, just toss a couple pieces of tp on top of the water before you go so it’ll slide down easily when you flush.
Dutch toilet
Heh heh. The Dutch get prefixed on all the fun stuff don’t they?
Dutch East India Company…
Dutch invention of modern capitalism…
Dutch treat…
So the dutch are to blame for everything…
I would have loved to have one of these a few years ago. I have a wilderness cottage and on the lake we’re on, it was affected by a family of beavers who cause beaver fever, Giardiasis. It’s a small lake so it was a problem and I got infected with it. Nothing serious or long lasting but when I went to the doctor, he asked for a series of stool samples to confirm diagnosis.
The dutch toilet would have been great for that. Instead I had to perform acrobatics and weird positions and use plastic wrap and cardboard and paper to try to make a clean collection … and there were a few accidents along the way.
I’m dreading this. I need to do the mail in your shit prostate test in the next couple years if not now. I’ve got hemorrhoids so I am very scared of anything going up my ass. Got any tips from what you learned?
I had to do a stool sample a couple years ago. One of the worst experiences of my life I’d rather just die
Brutal. I hear Giardia is nothing but suffering
In the UK we call that the “continental shelf.”
Us Germans, we take pride in our workmanship.
This is clearly a woman’s toilet. Everyone knows women don’t poop.
btw this is far from common. only seen in a fraction of old homes
Living in germany for 30+ yrs. this WAS the norm everywhere but nowadays these are no longer built usually. So in fact only in badly maintained homes.
Basically, any house that had it’s bathrooms renovated in the last thirty years or so won’t have those any more
I’m a bit nostalgic for the good old Flachspüler.
… I’m getting old, aren’t I?
Grüße von einem alten Sack zum anderen.
Hey, mit fast Mitte 30 bin ich doch noch kein alter Sack!
Oder?
Oder…Wenn solche Kloschüsseln bei dir Nostalgie auslösen, bist du zumindest geistig alt.
Naja, Oppa hatte sowas halt bei sich im Haus.
Und bei Oppa war immer gut.
Greatly enhances the defecation experience. 💩/10
The downsides are the smell if you don’t flush quickly after and having to brush the smear off more often.
There was a German tip above that you throw down some toilet paper on the shelf to make things easier. Good to know if we ever encounter one of these.
I LOVE these because:
- No splash (aka Poseidons kiss)
- No chance of dangling genitalia to touch the bowl
Toilets are hygiene facilities and this is the most hygienic design IMO
splash (aka Poseidons kiss)
Toilet paper beforehand.
Btw, swiss here (north of germany), never seen this type in the photo. Likely more in the north.
i can’t hot-swap replace the sheet of toilet paper between each turd, not to mention the waste of TP :P
I’m German and these toilets are much more common in the Netherlands in my experience.
No chance of dangling genitalia to touch the bowl
I’d say that depends on the degree of dangle
good point. A greatly diminished chance :D
good point.
More like a tip.
Not for ol’ taffy-scrote Pete.
shudders
Unless you make a high enough mountain it comes up and touches you. Ask me how I know l…. Or rather, don’t.
That is an absolute positive because it makes you able to see if you are eating healthy/if your gut is healthy
But look how happy it is!
There is a writer who has commented on toilet designs and cultures where the Germans like to study and understand the world thus have toilets like this. Where the French are more about getting rid of waste fast and efficiently much like their love for revolution. And the English are more of a diplomatic middle ground. Can’t remember his name and couldn’t find him from a quick search. I’m sure you can.
