>Be me, 27 with enough money to afford pot and cool posters
>Enjoy conspiracy theories
>Little brothers friends come over
>am high af
>Little bros friends awkwardly come into my room to smoke uninvited
>themorethemerrieriguess.pcx
>dont know what to talk about, figure I’ll tell them some dumb shit I read to make them laugh
>they leave
>later go downstairs to make a sandwich
>overhear them calling me a loser
>mfwWhat nobody foresaw was that the internet allowed these benign isolated idiots to connect and form a super-cell, and begin coordinated recruitment.
Back when I lived in Austin, Texas, Alex Jones was just our funny cable access lunatic. He was like a funny wrestling match interview during a UFO convention. Then we built the modern internet. Sorry.
The internet allows every village idiot to say to the other idiots “No you’re not the idiot.”
Leave it up to humans to bastardize the greatest tool for liberation ever invented.
Remember that one time Twitter facilitated the Arab Spring?
Maybe it’s not done yet. The Arab Spring demonstrated that Twitter was a threat. The powers that be have effectively destroyed Twitter as an organizing tool. Now we have Mastodon.
It might take more than a few decades for humans to fully adapt to the internet hazards we were warned about in the 1990s and forgot by the 2020s.
The ones I ever met, none were malicious or stupid.
It’s after the popularisation of the internet that it’s become a dangerous tool for misinformation.
The nerds are alright. The normos are not. The nerds like tights and Star Trek. The normos like extravagant vehicles and Trump.
Once it became profitable the assholes took over for the mostly harmless loons.
Joe Rogan is one of the biggest knuckledraggers our society has ever produced.
The fact that he has millions of listeners is a testament to our declining society.
The guy makes apes look like particle physicists.
Everyone thinks their lunkhead is the Worst Lunkhead in History.
But I watched my parents’ generation proudly proclaim themselves to be “Rush Babies / Ditto-Heads” (terms the host eagerly appended to his annoying fan base) and paid out the nose to listen to Howard Stern on Satellite Radio. Before that, we had coast to coast shameless shill Wolfman Jack and the perennially getting-fired Don Imus.
They all had the same schtick. They all mainlined fad diets and new age spirituality and quasi-legal drug abuse. They desperately wanted to be sports broadcasters, but failed to fully break in because of their inevitable fit of racism or sexism. Its the same bullshit decade after decade, complete with faux-libertarian toxic masculinity and hawking magic beans in a six hour long sales pitch.
Before radio we had thousands of independent Carnies. After radio we’ve consolidated and monopolized the job of Carny under the job title of DJ or Talk Radio Host or Podcaster, take your pick. But they grow these assholes in a vat under the Pentagon. They aren’t unique.
Lol there’s a conspiracy theory I want to see pick up. Joe Rogan is a synth grown under the Pentagon, meant to divide the people
Not sure Stern fits in there with people like Limbaugh… He’s changed quite a bit and is a really good interviewer. He might have been skeezy back in the day, but I don’t believe he was ever pushing right wing conspiracy bullshit or anything.
Stern was a shameless misogynist and sex pest. He was more than happy to shill quack therapies for everything from baldness to dick pills. He wasn’t a red meat spewing white nationalist or evangelical fascist. He ended up on the seediest end of the Libertarian spectrum, where any amount of social exploitation was acceptable so long as it made you a buck and it was cool to whine about a rapper from LA saying the N-word when he can’t.
And his show was as overflowing with hoaxes and conspiracies as anyone else on the radio. It was the same kind of Joe Rogan “open your mind until your brain falls out” style of cynical incredulity. Anything to fill the time slot that got people’s attention was on the table.
Sure Stern’s a turd. But he’s not a bad faith actor, and those cunce are worse for society as a wholr
he’s not a bad faith actor
He’s just a series of ads riding a Sybian.
those cunce are worse for society as a wholr
They’re hawking worse merch, sure. But its the same grift.
You should hear him talk about Israel
I miss when conspiracy theories were somewhat fun and mostly harmless. Black helicopters, CIA mind control, hidden aliens…usually the forte of those afflicted with questionable mental health.
Now? Conspiracies are nurtured and pushed with paid troll farms and wingnuts high on winning at literally any cost. Deliberately designed to harm and damage. Overwhelming the ability of reason and rebuttal to make a solid defense. Worse are those who so easily believe bullshit over decades or a century of objective proof of any kind.
The worst part is that you’re describing an actual real conspiracy that they won’t believe.
The first conspiracy was Watergate.
After Watergate, Late night FM (new at the time) programming filled with a bunch of “Well what else is the government hiding from us?”
Someone eventually proclaimed that aliens were covered up at the Roswell Incident, which everyone had forgotten about after 20 years.
Kennedy assassination was before Watergate… Pretty sure there were immediate conspiracy theories with that one.
I do remembrer a time when I was younger where conspiracies scratched an itch with me. It was a fun rabbit hole of stories to explore, I wish they never became more than stories
Yep. They were fun and mysterious. Now they’re in your face and sometimes violent.
I want to believe!
I knew a guy when I was a freshman in high school in the year 2000 and he would not stop talking about how Japan already had PlayStation 7 and that the US was not allowing it to be sold in America.
I was in elementary school in the mid 90s and had a friend whose mom owned an independent movie rental store. He claimed that because of this he was able to get all kinds of insider info in the movie industry. My favorite was that George Lucas originally planned 9 Star Wars movies, and that three of them, taking place before the original trilogy, were already in the works. What nonsense.
I knew a guy who claimed his grandad shot Hitler. Hitler was not his grandfather.
Next you’ll tell me that they planned several Matrix sequels… Imagine that…
These are the kind of adolescent, batshit insane takes that I miss from my teen years
Man, that rumor may have spread nationwide, or else I think I knew that guy.
I never saw the appeal of Joe Rogan
His stand-up was terrible
so is his sit-down
I understand the reason. He is basicaly how your dad would imagine himself talking with a rich/famous dude. The problem is that the pepole that are there probably shouldnt be taken as seriously as they seem to be taken.
I saw one stand up of him and he had a bit where he was ranting against books. That bit says so much about him.
I will always have a place in my heart for News Radio and Rogan was an important part of the show.
Such a great cast, love me some Stephen Root and Dave Foley.
Definitely a mega cast
I miss Phil
He can’t even fight back against science. He has no idea what that is. He just likes talking.
Edit: Mean but fair, if you got this far, check yourselves out for personality disorders.
Mine was my uncle who bought me a set of Time Life conspiracy theory books.
Nice name change. At first I thought someone was copying your shtick but then I realized you were the authentic product
Are you that person I recognize from the Internet?
I hope so. I love recognizing people on Lemmy. It’s so much easier and less stressful to interact when you know what to expect from certain usernames. Like for instance I know OP (St*mets) can get irritable at times, but they ultimately mean well and post a lot of good memes.
SemiHemiDemigod is just an elite Lemmy commenter in all facets. No notes.
Actively resisting the urge to follow southsamurai all over Lemmy to tell him he’s a cool dude
LOL I literally typed up a comment once saying how cool I thought he was. But then I deleted it without posting because it felt weird.
Though he did drop a pretty dark joke recently that got very bad reviews and had to be removed. Never meet your heroes 😭
I didn’t see the joke but I did see the follow up comments to it and I’m not too bothered. Seems he knows it was a bad joke and wasn’t offended that it got removed. We’ve all told a bad taste joke once or twice in the past. Guy has such a pattern of genuine wisdom (and accepted the bad comments with grace) that I’m totally willing to let one slide.
But now I’m wondering if it’s even weirder to be gassing him up in a conversation he’s not even in. Part of me hopes he sees this and part hopes he doesn’t 😅
Yea you’re probably right. But fuck it, if anybody should be gassing him up it’s other SJW users
That’s the only thing hexbear users get right, they always got their homies backs.
He makes me feel concise at times, which is absurd. But the extra thought and effort he puts into every single comment is exemplary, along with the fact that he’s not afraid to speak his mind even if it goes against the circlejerk. You’re a real one @[email protected]
You want me to tell him? I’m going to dinner at his house tonight.
A different kind of funny uncle.
See, now we’re starting to say “when I was your age” and “back in my day…”
I paid a couple kids to shovel my sidewalk. That’s when I knew I reached the “back in my day” milestone.
bruh we have kids now. we’re old, and busted. my wife was trying to calculate what years our BTTF shit would happen, it’s over.
Joe Rogan’s gimmick started out as a knucklehead layman who would just have casual water cooler discussions about things they didnt understand, and he was upfront about how he was an idiot who didnt know anything.
the problem was that other knuckle dragging idiots started thinking that because they agreed with him because of confirmation bias, that he was right and eventually he noticed he had a huge following of people, and started to think that his own dumb opinions must be correct
I still struggle to understand how someone like that could even get traction because every time I’ve ever looked at a joe rogan podcast he’s usually just sitting there agreeing and brownnosing whoever his guest is. “Thats crazy, thats really interesting huh I didnt know that”… 90% of the time
The other 10% of the time he’s screaming into the microphone saying shit like “Fuck you Ukraine, you’re going to cause WW3 for defending yourself from an invasion”
In Ireland you just go to the pub and you’ll be sure to find some asshole ready and willing to talk shite to ye the whole night. People seem to think the Net invented this kind of wankers…
The net elevated them from being a drunk wanker at the pub, into a multimillionaire celebrities with cult following, dictating the future of the world.
Every village had a village idiot, now they network.
No, now the village idiots connect on social networks, exchange conspiracy theories and think they are the majority.
Well, you know, that pot-smoking, black-light-loving loser is actually Joe Rogan. He’s just gotten a little older and expanded his audience. He’s a winner now in terms of money, but he never really matured.
You had cell phones when you were a kid?
They’re obviously Mayan, so yeah.
Maybe you just set the wrong language during the last update.
My parents got a cutting edge bag phone when I was a teenager
Yeah. I think the first one was a GSM phone; the NMT ones were too expensive to be handed to kids. But it was before Nokia became dominant.
James Mayans proposed the T23 shortwave transmitter that later led on to the first car based telephones largely thought to be the forerunner to modern mobile phones so he was right.
Look here younguns that guy would tell us the Mayans invented cassette tapes.
Yup thenCortez beat them with the CD
Mini disc is what i always heard. Nobody knows what the hell they are anyway
In 2010 -2011 I never heard or saw any Mayan or Aztec person imply that their calendar indicated a doomsday. It was only Rogan and his guests.
On the one hand it let Mesoamerican scholars make some money and get some attention which helps interest and funding in a VERY neglected field. On the other hand it was complete pap. Total nonsense. They had 4 MAJOR calendars and plenty of minor ones. The long term calendar just hit 0000 in 2012. What this ment to The Classical Maya isn’t clear, if this ment a new era philosophically or actually some kind of doomsday, who can say. We know they wouldn’t celebrate certain holidays if there was famine or drought, they’d wait till a good harvest then celebrate, they weren’t THAT beholden to the calendar.
