Kirk fought literal Nazis. Sheridan fought future Nazis. Why did you get downvoted for this comment?

This was one of the shows that taught me what it looks like and why I should fight like my life depends on it.

Optic Nerve won a damn Emmy for their prosthetic work on B5, not sure what op’s on about with that one…

Given the budget that Fox gave them to film this, I’m not going to whine about it when I’ve watched community theater productions and enjoyed them. If the visual realism is a hard sticking point, then unfortunately, you just kinda have to sigh and live with it. Enjoy the story, and maybe try making fandom cosplay and give it a try for yourself.

That isn’t a dig, btw. Being able to make costumes of similar (but lesser) quality made me appreciate the hard work that goes into this more. And being involved in it helped me learn willfull suspension of disbelief. Or course you can see the seams in the costume. The actor is ignoring them and doing their damn best for a good script. I think that effort deserves a little grace.

G’Kar can’t even turn his neck. Reminds me of how the Cardassian prosthetics pull me out of the realism and make me painfully aware that I am watching TV.

Bester is also still a unique character, and Koenigs delivery is unique.

Bester was supposed to be a one-off villain! They brought him back because he was amazing!

last best hope for peace was a truck stop

Picture I found of Babylon-5:

To be fair, while “truck stop” is a fairly accurate term for DS9 and its location along a major trade route, the primary purpose of Babylon 5 was really just being a neutral location for political relations and whatnot. Though maybe there are important meetings that are conducted at Waffle House, idk

Tbf their first attempt resulted in the near extinction of humanity…

space waffle house

Stop everything else, this is the show I want. Let’s see a strung out avian fist fighting a drunk grey across the counter, while a little green man twerks in the background.

Ds9 was a truck stop, the babylon stations were UN convention centres with bazaars did you even watch the show

I don’t have a stim problem. They’re legal. I have it under control.

Dude, the way that show handled not one but two addiction arcs. In the 90s.

That is something that has bugged me since I started watching sci-fi (yes, I am relatively new to the genre), and I don’t think I have ever seen anybody talk about it.

One of the wonderful little details from B5 was the holographic recording Londo made for [REDACTED] where he’s making his grand speech about how and why he’s having him [REDACTED]. The recording is constantly looking in the wrong direction, pointing accusingly at the wall, moving through people, and just obviously not lining up with the room it’s being played in because it’s just a recording.

Then the gospel choir kicks in and the episode officially becomes my all time favorite.

Star Wars is so much worse on that than anything Trek-like… so much that some times people mention it. But yeah, I’ve never seen anybody mention it about Star Trek or B5.

I came to write exactly this, I laughed out loud at it

God, this. This fucking show was absolutely prophetic. I wish more politicians watched it in the 90s and got the fucking hint.

The first season is pretty bad, but necessary to set up the various arcs.

Season 4 crammed the final two major plot arcs into it because they thought they were getting cancelled. But then they didn’t. Season 5 is almost entirely filler.

In fact, once you finish Season 4, I’d recommend jumping right to the series finale (last episode of S5) and watching that. Then watch Season 5 from the beginning and think of it as a spin-off show that didn’t go anywhere.

This was how I went through my last rewatch of the series a few years ago and it was perfect.

You know the episode of DS9 where Sisko and Garrick commit war crimes?

It’s like that episode, the show.

It took me a while, so I’ll tell you it starts to pick up steam halfway through first season and hooks you before the first season finale.

It is, wholeheartedly, one of my most favorite shows of all time. It’s one of the ones that shaped me as a human being.

Just try and give the exiting actors and resulting plot hiccups a little mercy. There was a lot happening in the real world for all of them, and some things are more important than television.

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The way he gained a soul the hard way just to trade it, fucking amazing journey

And the show blew me away with how it showed exactly how Londo would die in the first season, and his death was both exactly, and nothing at all, like it was foretold.

Don’t forget Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer and Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer

I did not grab the character names when I had made this chart, but here is a list of Babylon 5 actors who appeared in Star Trek. Data sourced from IMDb

It definitely blends action, drama, politics, and philosophy like Stat Trek does, but leans far more into drama/politics. I can understand why one might lose interest early on.

From what I remember it start a little slow, but it starts to pick up around half way of the first season and it’s pretty consistenly great after that. It has been while since I rewatched it though

I feel this. Sometimes I have to remind myself it took, like, 5 tries on Breaking Bad to get past Walter standing in a desert in his tightie whities.

I think B5 is the one where the test pilot goes too fast and winds up on a big alien spaceship?

Hmm give this one a go

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0517627/

While it’s not quite the style of the show, it still a fun way to see the whole station and get a taste of the over arching plot stuff.

First season? Yeah that one is a bit rough. But the payoff is worth the setup.

Get to episode 8, “And the Sky Full of Stars.” If that doesn’t grab you, then rest assured that the show is just not your thing.