• @jopepa
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    It’s still funny, but parent licenses are step one of eugenics, and licenses protect fish populations, environment, parks, lots of good. If anyone’s really agreeing with the subtext, learn more about the dangers of both.

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        Licenses are a way to prevent people from overfishing populations. Certain populations have been overfished to the point of being endangered, and if a species gets erased out of an ecosystem, the overlying ecosystem gets thrown out of place depending on how key of a species the fish was.

        There are some species the gov does not care about eg the invasive lionfish and asian carp

        • @jopepa
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          Thanks for more thoroughly explaining the benefits of parks and preservation efforts. Super import work. If you get a parking ticket for camping with your parks pass in your glove box, don’t dispute it if you can afford it.

          I think they were joking about my clumsy phrasing, though

        • Draconic NEO
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          810 months ago

          and if a species gets erased out of an ecosystem, the overlying ecosystem gets thrown out of place depending on how key of a species the fish was.

          Also if they were a particularly delicious species no one would be able to enjoy them anymore.

    • @AeonFelis
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      A little Eugenics never killed anyone

      • @jopepa
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        Desecrating corpses never killed anyone. A lot of evil shit doesn’t result in death

        • @AeonFelis
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          That’s a very big “if”

          • @jopepa
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            What’s your deal? Are you a grammar Nazi edge lord or just regular Nazi?

            • @AeonFelis
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              Just a troll.

              • @jopepa
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                Plenty of trolls don’t lean into Nazi ideology, why do you?

                • @AeonFelis
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                  Because I’m trying to enforce Poe’s law.

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      In all honesty a little bit of eugenics probably wouldn’t be a bad idea, the problem is that once you have government mandated eugenics you begin a slippery slope that should never be approached.

      While not strictly eugenics, similar outcomes have occurred naturally in places where genetic testing and access to abortion are more available. For example Iceland has almost no Down Syndrome persons. (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/down-syndrome-iceland/).

      Frankly, now that we can test for these things, there are several genetic disorders which a reasonable society would self select to remove from the gene pool. Things like Huntington’s Disease shouldn’t keep propagating. Basically there shouldn’t be a government mandated program, but if you know you have some horrible genetic disorder you shouldn’t pass it on.

      • @jopepa
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        To be clear, I don’t think you’re advocating for eugenics. So I hope you don’t feel attacked/defensive by any of the following:

        I can’t speak for anyone who’s living with an impossibly difficult disease, but the fact that so many people are living their lives, finding happiness, and making contributions despite everything they have to get through every day says enough to me that denying their right to exist isn’t solving a problem and is denying the world of their life.

        The problem with eugenics (aside from the obvious history of racism) is that it’s looking at the problem from the wrong angle entirely. Instead of working to make things easier for people with disabilities and working towards cures, advocates for it think the problem is contained and solved by pruning the “problem” vines. We’re people, not produce. People that are neurodivergent, differently abled, or even severely disabled, all belong because we have enough to make room for them to thrive in whatever capacity they can. Whether we’re doing enough is a different conversation.

        Iceland isn’t mandating people to abort chromosomal anomalies, that’s a choice the families make for themselves. So it’s beside the point. More so, it’s not like that can be eradicated either because anyone can parent a kid with DS. Huntingtons might be a valid concern, but sterization is a decision for those suffering it to determine themselves. That’s not eugenics.

        Equating eugenics with family planning is irresponsible because it validates one very bad and widely rejected avenue of science because it’s slightly adjacent to a human right that is valid. Supposing that they are the same ignores history and risks spreading ideology that leads to making those same mistakes again.

        TL;DR: GATTACA!

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      the lack of parent (and most pet) licenses is how we have so many people with long-term trauma or fucked up lives due to bad parenting… like 99% of people make terrible parents. imo you should at least have to pass a few courses related to parenting funded & certified by the government to possess children or pets, or even pass some sort of psychological examination. it’s extremely important that people who aren’t fit to parent don’t have kids, that’s how you end up with… the average first-world person now (humanity is in a terrible state right now so that’s pretty bad). it is a “slippery slope” to government do bad thing, yeah, but that can be said of most restrictions and it’s up to us as a society not to fuck that up.

      that being said, our current society is NOT able to properly handle the responsibility of anything of the sorts, everything i said doesn’t really apply with such corrupt and immoral governments where literal fascists have a fine time just waltzing in. and it probably won’t ever apply unless we somehow purge all fascist scum from power and don’t let them in again (not happening in this reality). at least in the US and some of Europe looking at how the governments are completely screwing child & potential parents’ rights it gives a pretty clear idea of why it’s a bad idea otherwise (gay couples can’t even legally adopt in much of Europe, including Italy & Switzerland).

    • @jopepa
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      Lisensing fees are a suckers game, what you wanna do is go out into international waters. That’s why so many guys are posing with swordfish.

    • Flying Squid
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      I’ve been fucking fish without a license for years. Come and get me, BIG GOVERNMENT!

    • @[email protected]
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      Yes you can! Don’t tell me that you don’t have a license when eating all of those fish sticks?

  • @Squorlple
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    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a man a life and he will be alive for the rest of his life.

    • Jessica
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      So true. We are all here for our whole lives.

      • @Squorlple
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        If the rapture is 15 minutes late then we’re legally allowed to leave

        • Jessica
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          Technically they can’t rapture you if you don’t want to. You made no agreement with them.

            • @[email protected]
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              I see someone else has been reading the sovereign citizen post on the front page.

              I would double check your contract, though… There’s this guy who’s a competitor to Heaven Inc. and he’s famous for being a stickler when it comes to contracts. Notably, he’s not known to be their subsidiary or an affiliate, but he’d probably offer a sovereign soul a home.

            • Jessica
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              510 months ago

              Look, we’re all just a bunch travelers, we have no contracts.

        • @Gradually_Adjusting
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          This is the best thing I’ve heard all day

          Still in bed, but what a start

  • Draconic NEO
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    You technically don’t need a license to fish, but without one you’ll have to do it in a way they won’t know you’re doing it. You may also have to do certain unpleasant things to avoid punishment.

    The legal team would like you to know that this comment in no way endorses or encourages illegal activity

  • @MataVatnik
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    I agree, we should have open season tags on babies.

  • @TheGrandNagus
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    I mean, fish populations are collapsing, it makes sense to require licenses in lots of areas.

    And requiring licences to have kids seems like a dystopian nightmare that would backfire massively.

    • @eskimofry
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      To be fair we do have a social acceptance license to make sure we pass on the best bet to getting laid.

  • @SanndyTheManndy
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    The real world was supposed to be the certification test. If you/your family were not good enough, your progeny would either not survive or be less fit to continue the line.

    This system may restore itself in due time. Gotta wait and watch.

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      in “due time” would probably be thousands of years, if we’re assuming natural selection is the main drive of family lines ending in modern society. but the first world is a society where fucked up parenting is highly valued, it’s important to our overlords that a bunch of poor, broken, desperate people are churned out so they can exploit them for as cheap and easily as possible. healthcare & education is mostly either inaccessible or extremely hard to get (even in many places with advanced universal or free healthcare, it can be a challenge to get proper treatment for something that’s not an immediate visible threat to your life). this is especially a problem in countries that aren’t european. so we will keep having a large portion of familes consist mostly of dysfunctional parenting, for as long as corporatism can sustain.

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      Why is this a link to a Google search? Not like, a video clip, or imdb quote, or article? There’s even a duplicate word autocorrect.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        Huh. I just searched Google, and clicked on the clip. While I was watching, I copied the URL and pasted it here not really bothering to look at it. I edited it to be a YouTube link instead.

  • THCDenton
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    We probably wont overfish babies