• slazer2au
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    353 months ago

    Well, what other word do you use to teach a kid the alphabet? Xenophoe? Xenomorph?

    • @Zachariah
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      373 months ago

      xenophobe

      That way you can teach the concepts of bigotry and tolerance from a young age.

      • @Siethron
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        193 months ago

        I don’t know, a 5 year old might think that’s a cool word and say they want to be xenophobe when they grow up.

        • @Zachariah
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          103 months ago

          See, this way we can spot them earlier. Way too many of them go on to live their dream—when they could have had their course adjusted at the beginning.

        • idunnololz
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          63 months ago

          Ok sure but I grew up in the 90s and ended up becoming a xylophone and Im not sure that’s any better.

    • @aeronmelon
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      163 months ago

      Xolo - hairless Mexican dog

      Xenops - small bird

      (I don’t use X-Ray because saying the letter X doesn’t make either of the letter’s major phonetic sounds.)

      • The Assman
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        83 months ago

        saying the letter X doesn’t make either of the letter’s major phonetic sounds

        Excuse me?

        • @aeronmelon
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          183 months ago

          X, spoken as a letter = ecks

          Hard phonetic sound = zz, same as the letter Z (almost always at the beginning of a word. Xylophone)

          Soft phonetic sound = ksk (never at the beginning of a word. Box, oxen)

          (disclaimer: American English, ymmv.)

          • @oyfrog
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            83 months ago

            By this definition, Xolo wouldn’t fit because the x in Xolo is somewhere between sh- and ch-. It’s a Nahuatl word and many (if not all) Xs are sh-/ch-.

            Sorry for being pedantic.

            • @StrongHorseWeakNeigh
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              113 months ago

              And also its Xoloitzcuintle. A bit of a mouth full for a 6 year old. Also, like you said a nahuatl word and not English.

            • @aeronmelon
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              33 months ago

              Don’t be sorry, you’re not pedantic enough.

              The Nahuatl word Xoloitzcuintle is something the vast majority of English-speaking Americans can’t read, let alone spell or pronounce correctly. So the more digestible word Xolo was adopted to identify Mexican hairless dogs (hard X, hard O, L, hard O).

              • @[email protected]
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                23 months ago

                As an English speaking American I can confirm. I started pronouncing it in my head then kinda gave up cus I haven’t had enough coffee yet

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          No, i think i get it but difficult to explain.

          Say X, X, X in a row

          Then say

          Xylo , Xen, Xono

          The Raw letter has different phonet-x to how it’s often applied.

          When were talking about teaching kids the alphabet we need to train both individual and applied letters

          I do realize that this might be very cultural and language dependent but i am pretty sure we’re talking plain english.

          • @[email protected]
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            63 months ago

            When were talking about teaching kids the alphabet we need to train both individual and applied letters

            This is only slightly related but I once met a young (USAmerican) adult who thought the stripy horse animal’s name was pronounced zed-bra in British English and it was really hard to convince her otherwise. In her mind zebra was strongly connected to Z-bra, so of course if someone was to pronounce the letter “zed” it would turn into “zed-bra” and not just into “zeh-bra”.

    • @[email protected]
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      53 months ago

      Xenon? Xylem? Xenobiology? Xanthoma? Xylocarp? Xiphoid? Xerosis? Xyster? The scrabble favorites xi and xu?

      There’s loads of cool words that begin with x

      • TheTechnician27
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        Xylophone: fun, colorful, easy for a kid to remember as a cute little instrument

        Xenon: An inert gas used in… MRI scans, I think?

        X-ray is probably the only other ‘X’ word with more real-world representation than xylophone, and as pointed out above, that’s not quite representative of how the letter is used phonetically in the rest of the language.

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          Xylem is a major component of almost all the plants you see. I’m not sure how much more real-world representation you can get…

          • TheTechnician27
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            By “real-world representation”, I mean “how often the word is actually used in the real world.” There are hundreds of trillions of neutrinos passing through you all the time, but I’d still think “nest” is a better word for kids.

        • @[email protected]
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          It’s rarely used phonetically the same as xylophone. Usually it makes the [ks] sound, it only ever makes the [z] sound at the beginning of words. X-ray is actually much more in line with the typical phonetic representation in English.

    • @rovingnothing29
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      43 months ago

      Xenomorph, gotta teach them young that sometimes it’s best to just nuke the whole thing from orbit.

    • @Johnmannesca
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      12 months ago

      The name Xavier works because it teaches them to pronounce the letter correctly

  • TheRealKuni
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    263 months ago

    The word “xylophone” comes from the Ancient Greek ξύλον (xúlon) meaning “wood” and φωνή (phōnḗ) meaning “sound” or “voice.”

    So this instrument with metal bars that you hit with a hammer to produce sound is called a…?

    That’s right! A “glockenspiel!”

    (I stole this from someone else on the internet.)

    • @frunch
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      Tortoise was the first group i heard using them, led me get into some of vibraphonist Cal Tjader’s material and some lesser known vibraphone groups/artists (though Tortoise is much more my speed) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EPqmgY6WTVw

      Though she often played marimba, Frank Zappa’s percussionist Ruth Underwood was a monster with the mallets as well… Again not vibraphones in this particular example but anyone who digs them may want to see this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Sq0chFjps

    • archomrade [he/him]
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      23 months ago

      It was always an exciting day in band when we got to turn the vibrophone resonator fans on.

  • @taiyang
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    83 months ago

    As a father of toddlers learning ABCs, I agree. I’ve seen some weird side steps, like X-ray Fish for an animal themed one, or Xerox— a company name. Or just straight up Fox because they couldn’t think of Xylophone or any other X words.

    But, what’s the age appropriate alternative?

  • @aesthelete
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    73 months ago

    Big xylophone is gerrymandering the alphabet.

  • Todd Bonzalez
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    Me, rubbing my fingers across the metal bars of the instrument: “This isn’t a xylophone, you fool! It’s a stinking glockenspiel!”

  • @LoraxEleven
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    23 months ago

    Possibly overrepresented on a couple Frank Zappa albums…

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      Possibly overrepresented Prominently featured on a couple Frank Zappa albums…

      Kidding aside, it’s all a matter of taste! Luckily with Zappa there are tons of flavors to choose from 😆

      • @LoraxEleven
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        I know that’s right. We all fuckin love Ruth!