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Pop is just as manufactured and fake as it always was, with the exceptional trend setter or two doing their own thing, but what’s just below the surface is always just as good as it always was.
As a fan of hardcore, electronica, folk, metal, and all of the genres that fall under them, I still get new bands. I still get new releases. I get cheap as fuck concerts and still get cool merch and awesome vinyls. I have zero to complain about. Hell, Primus, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer just made an album together, in 2024.
Anyone who says music sucks now doesn’t really listen to that much music to start with. Music is just fine, man. Maybe look a little deeper than the pudding skin.
An album called?
Not really related to that stupid boomer post, but ho crazy is it that that ugly british lady won music star or popstar or whatever and everyone was like: oh my god this is insane, ugly people can do things? They are almost like real people.
Do You Have the Slightest Idea How Little That Narrows It Down?
Susan Boyle?
#susanalbumparty
I remember when that party was, still regret missing it :(
What do you mean? there are plenty of British recording artists
Listen to ugly people music (or vtuber music, same thing (na, just kidding around with vtuber insecurities (help I’m trapped inside this nested parenthesis))) nevermind, got out.
I don’t think music has gotten any worse. However, it is much easier and cheaper to produce music today: you don’t have to be able to play an instrument and professional production is possible with comparatively inexpensive software on any standard computer. This and also the changes in distribution (no more need for sound carriers, …) have probably led to a lot more music being produced today than in the past. Of course, this does not mean that music has become better as a result, but it also does not mean that it has become worse. You just have to find the gems among the admittedly gigantic amount of junk.
I somewhat disagree.
Music seems like it’s followed a similar trajectory of most things where it’s become more centralized and mass marketed. Music has to appeal to the masses for studios to pick it up. So there is an incentive to find music that appeals to the most people and turns off the fewest.
Similarly, you have a handful of studios telling you what is “good” and pushing it. Even if it isn’t great, it’s good enough that people listen and then they can create the hype behind it where it might not organically exist.
Some music bubbles up organically from independent artists but quite a bit is mass marketed and produced by big studios. And they have the money so they can choke out smaller artists.
I think there’s a categorical difference between pop and indie music and you’re right about the increased centralization of pop music, however the increased ease of music production and distribution has also lead to a greater proliferation of indie music at the same time
Well, in that regard not too much changed, I think. Record labels always mostly pushed music and artists with mass appeal. They still do but have lost a lot of their power to companies like Spotify, Apple and Google (YouTube). But these players do pretty much the same with their algorithms. So I don’t think that popular music has changed too much. There are still influential companies that can pretty much dictate what people listen to. I still don’t think it has become much worse, since back in the day you weren’t even able to produce an album without a record deal because studio time, distribution and all that was so expensive. Today you can produce everything yourself in your bedroom. Sure, it’s unlikely that you will be very successful marketing your record - but at least it’s somewhat possible.
“just”
This is the kind of boomer post you make if you haven’t followed music in 20 years.
Just because you aren’t Beyoncé doesn’t mean you aren’t beautiful.
Yea that’s why metal fuckin rules. We got the ugliest guys ever altogether in one room and said “what you got?” and they became legends
And for anyone that might say that doesn’t happen anymore, I ask: how many open mic nights or $20 shows have you been to lately? The scene is doing great in my area, but it doesn’t happen by magic. Ya gotta support it, spread the word, bring your friends.
Yeah, no kidding. I just bought tickets for a $15 show that has multiple bands and included a overseas band. I mentioned to them that they should’ve upped the prices to $20.
Also: Sturgeon‘s law still applies: “90% of everything is crap“. Music is so amazingly easy to make these days you can do it on your phone (and I believe a Grammy nominated/winning album did so). Which means that there are literally thousands of albums every year, And so there will be a lot of crap. But between Bandcamp and Spotify and SoundCloud (and so on, even self-hosting), this is the freaking plutonium age if you like new music. There is literally so much that you can’t possibly keep up with it, even in sub genres. And there are some amazing gems coming out daily
More of a hardcore guy myself but we’re equally as ugly so I stand in solidarity
What do you think “video killed the radio star” was about?
Well… in my mind and in my car, we can’t rewind, we’ve gone too far.
Oh-a-a-a-Oh
what about internet killed the video star
Yeah no, that’s just a cranky old guy thought. Just today I was watching fairly average looking people promoting music on late shows. You’re probably getting a very thin slice of pop music and ignoring everything else (and hell, even pop breaks that rule sometimes).
Plus, physical beauty and music are both subjective. I try to not get all “old man yells at cloud” about how music “used to be better”.
Tbf, I think radio absolutely used to be better before iheart and their ilk bought fucking everything and turned every goddamn station into a hypersanitized prepackaged mix of the same 10 bloody songs over and over. Therefore, by extension, I could 100% see how someone basing their opinion on what actually gets radio play could easily arrive at the conclusion that music is worse now.
I’m very lucky to have an independent radio station in my area. It’s run by a nearby college, but they let anyone take training to become a host.
They don’t always play music I like (hell, they don’t always even play music) but I’ll deal with 30 minutes of buddhist chanting because the variety can’t be beaten. Also, they have no ad breaks.
ignoring or not having a chance to find it?
pretty sure that’s how hyperpop happened 10 years ago
Someone forbade you to make music?
Way to dodge the point! Next lesson in mental gymnastics tutorial is blocking. Press X to continue.
That’s my favorite song.
I think music staring going downhill when music was no longer an audio only thing. Once bands were expected to make videos, posters, and “act” on stage, suddenly a lot of musicians had problems getting into the business. They want to make music, not become pseudo-actors.
So you’re saying that… video killed the radio star…?
And even before MTV, there were these bands. So called “performers” even. It’s almost as if they performed some kind of act to entertain an audience.
Yeah, but they were just a bunch of Monkees
We can rewind though right?
Sorry, gone too far
Metal and grunge still happened in a music video era.
I think a bigger thing that happened was the collapse of the CD. From that point, the new acts that the industry seemed to focus on were individuals instead of groups.
Is this showerthoughts or oldbumperstickers?
Not every thought I have in the shower is original.
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Speak for yourself, KenM.
Clearly not?
I, for one, have never seen that bumper sticker. So you’re good with me.
sir, this is /r/lewronggeneration
Hey, OP might be old. There’s some of us around.
