• @TootSweet
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    181 hour ago

    Nope. Lots of stuff commonly believed by Christians isn’t from the Bible. (Though sometimes they’ll do a lot of mental gymnastics to assert that what they believe is from “the only reasonable interpretation” of the Bible.)

    Just a few other things commonly believed by Christians not (or at least only dubiously) from the Bible:

    • The seven deadly sins
    • The nine circles of hell
    • The seven levels of heaven
    • Transubstantiation
    • The trinity
    • @Bassman1805
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      Transubstantiation is kind of in the Bible. Matthew 26:26-28

      While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.”

      Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the[a] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

      The discussion of transubstantiation is just how literal “my body/blood” is.

      • Flax
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        326 minutes ago

        Transubstantiation is the doctrine that it ceases being bread and wine. Which St Paul kind of debunks in his first letter to the Corinthians at Chapter 11, where he refers to it as bread.

        “For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.”

        What you’re talking about is consubstantiation, which is where the body and blood physically coexist in the bread and wine, which can be derived from the Bible.

      • @FourPacketsOfPeanuts
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        Matthew 20:30

        “At resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.”

        I think that’s where the sentiment comes from. It’s explicit in Mormonism (I think). In mainstream Christianity the saved don’t become angels, they become like angels.

    • Flax
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      226 minutes ago

      So is “God helps those who help themselves”

      • @FourPacketsOfPeanuts
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        The sentiment is there though…

        2 Thessalonians 3:10 “While we were with you, this we commanded you: If someone won’t work, then neither shall they eat”

    • Flax
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      129 minutes ago

      The Trinity is clearly taught in the Bible. Sure, not in explicit Athanasius creed form, but Jesus even said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19).

      Notice how “Name” is singular, implying the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is one thing, or at least equal. Jesus is referred to as God, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are also. And it’s made clear that there is one God. The Athanasius Creed is just the Trinity clearly defined in a single text. Clarifying interpretation (like the Nicene Creed).

      Seven deadly sins are based off of various sins listed in the Bible, but most of it has kind of been overhyped and overemphasized. It’s useful for giving a rough idea of what sin is, but it’s been meddled with over time.

  • @[email protected]
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    St Peter doesn’t judge you! He’s always depicted with a book that already contains the judgements. He has no real authority, he’s just the gatekeeper.

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      It comes from Matthew 16

      15 “But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?”

      16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

      17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

      [end quote]

      So, yes, authority given to St Peter to “bind and loose” in heaven and on earth. How that’s supposed to work alongside it being Jesus separating the sheep from the goats is anyone’s guess.

      The reason this takes place at the “pearly gates” is because the new Jerusalem descending from heaven in Revelation is described as having giant pearls for gates.

    • snooggums
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      I wonder if enough technicians go to heaven could the pearly gates can be automated so St Peter can finally retire.

    • RubberDuck
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      He just checks the no fly list.

  • partial_accumen
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    Even “the bible” isn’t “the bible”.

    “Protestant Bibles have only 39 books in the Old Testament, however, while Catholic Bibles have 46.” source

    • Flax
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      Neither of these mention St Peter at the pearly gates, though. The biggest addition the Apocrypha makes is a record of someone praying for the dead. Protestants generally still do recognise the Apocrypha, but just as historical records and not authoritative, hence not a part of the Bible.

      • @FourPacketsOfPeanuts
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        In Matthew 16 Jesus gives Peter the “keys to the kingdom” and in Revelation the new Jerusalem has pearls for gates. That’s where it comes from.

        • Flax
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          The pearly gates are biblical. I think the keys are taken a bit literally. But that’s interesting to think about, actually

  • bluGill
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    Most Christian think of it like a cartoon. At least from what I can tell. Nobody actually seems to believe Peter is at the gates, but it is sometimes fun/useful to pretend that is what happens instead of trying to figure out what the judgement day really means (we often think of that like a court room with God as the judge and jury, but the scripture is not clear and so it isn’t really any more correct that Peter at the gates)

    • @FourPacketsOfPeanuts
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      Can’t speak for Catholics but most reformed protestants (evangelicals) will be being taught their sins are already washed away and any judgement for the ‘saved’ after death is only about their quality of walk with god and quality of reward in heaven, it’s not a heaven/hell judgment. That’s only for the ‘unsaved’.

  • @[email protected]
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    136 minutes ago

    Aren’t you staying dead for millenia until the second comming and the judgement day ? To my understanding the reason why Christian burry their dead rather than burning them is that they need to resurrect on jugement day

  • Flax
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    136 minutes ago

    No, not at all. God does the judging.

    • @FourPacketsOfPeanuts
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      Matthew 19:28

      Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

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      Whether “12 tribes of Israel” here is figurative of the global church or not, there still definitely some role in judgement delegated out to the apostles.

    • @betterdeadthanreddit
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      …the St. Peter part is made up…

      Which stands in stark lack of contrast with the rest of the bible.