Gee, who didn’t see that coming a million miles away.

  • @ATDA
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    He’s convicted but not charged, does anyone really think it’ll be bad politically to just pardon himself? Is sycophants don’t care and clearly don’t have memories past 4 years.

    • @NotMyOldRedditName
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      When you fling a tonne of shit at the wall, somethings bound to stick.

  • @ProIsh
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    He was going to do this regardless. Like, we all get that right?

    • @[email protected]
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      Now he’s just going to point and whine that he should be able to because Biden pardoned Hunter. I mean, I agree that he was going to at least try anyway, but this just allows him and his followers to use the “both sides” argument

      • @[email protected]
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        Eh, I doubt anyone who wasn’t already going to agree with him will be swayed by the" both sides". We should probably stop caring what arguments they’re going to use about stuff, no one’s on that side because of arguments.

        • @CharlesDarwin
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          Unfortunately, the “liberal media” often give them a big assist with the “both sides” thing, but, yeah, point taken. People need to stop caring what the Enlightened Centrists ™ and the wingers are going to say.

  • Phoenixz
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    You get out of jail free? Then me too me too, memememememememememe!

    Wonder what the 2 million other prisoners are thinking now

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      Putting aside the specific matter of jurisdiction (state level cases require state level pardons), legal experts widely agree that the concept of a self-pardon does not exist in pretty much any body of law, ever, because it basically refutes the idea of there being a body of law.

      But, given that the supreme court decided that the president is a god-king emperor, the fact that he can’t legally do it no longer really matters.

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        But, given that the supreme court decided that the president is a god-king emperor, the fact that he can’t legally do it no longer really matters.

        That’s what I was wondering about

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          The answer, as I understand it, is basically “Who the fuck knows?”

          Every serious legal analyst seems to agree that the SC’s immunity decision is, uh… I think the technical term is “Total fucking lunacy.” It makes no sense, destroys a lot of existing legal precedent, and generally overturns many of the foundational principles of the US constitution. It’s batshit crazy, and the actual terms of the immunity and how it’s defined are astonishingly vague.

          What the president can or cannot do right now is more or less “???”

    • @Leeks
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      Probably not. The Hush Money case is a state case, not a federal case. Presidential pardons (up till this point) are only valid for federal crimes.

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      Doesnt matter. The case is dead. By the time he is out of office, he’d be too old.

      He was never going to prison to begin with, even if Kamala won. Some lawyer is gonna argue its unsafe for a former president to be in prison and supreme court would side with the trump lawyer, so he’d at worst, be in house arrest for like maybe a few months.

      • @[email protected]
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        Some lawyer is gonna argue its unsafe for a former president to be in prison

        What, with his Secret Service bodyguards?

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          Maybe in the alternate timeline where Kamala won. Here, we get a demented old man ranting on live tv with the nuclear button on his twitchy fingers…

    • @FlexibleToast
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      Not the state case. He has the power at the federal level only.

    • Kalkaline
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      Trump accepting the pardon from himself means he’s guilty but gets no consequences, sort of maintaining the status quo.