• ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
    103·
    6 months ago

    Was Gollum willing to kill people for the ring? Yes.
    Was Gollum completely obsessive about a ring? Also yes.
    Would I want to be trapped in a room with Gollum and not Andrew Tate? Yes.

  • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
    9611·
    5 months ago

    Him, his brother, Canadian benzo king, that uppity African-American with several baby mommas, orange deity, Yaxley-Fucking-Lennon et al. almost make me want to be anti cis white male… but then I realise that would make me more, not less, like them.

    Kids, if you’re reading this, trust me when I say that if these guys are your heroes then you’ve fucked up already - but it’s never too late to save yourself. Good luck.

    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
      62·
      5 months ago

      that uppity African-American with several baby mommas

      I have no idea who you’re referring to, but why are you using slurs and negative stereotypes?

      • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
        161·
        5 months ago

        There’s a guy, a South African, who, in my opinion has too much of a say in another country’s (the US’) politics. He bought Twitter, works with electric cars, space rockets, brain chips etc.

        His name escapes me. Sorry to offend you.

        • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
          1·
          5 months ago

          Yeah, I get it. But reaction-baiting by using all those specific words was a choice…

      • confusedbytheBasicsEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        I think they are trying to refer to musk but he is African not African-American. Hrm…

        • EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee
          31·
          5 months ago

          He’s (South) African, now (less than legally) American.

          That’s pretty much African-American. He’s got apartheid all over his birth & soul rather than a darker skin color, if that’s your gateway.

          • confusedbytheBasicsEnglish
            1·
            5 months ago

            Dude, no. African Americans, also known as Black Americans and formerly also called Afro-Americans, are an American racial or ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

  • surph_ninja
    793·
    5 months ago

    There’s probably some nice people who look like that, too, so I prefer to attack his ugly as fuck character and soul.

    Why resort to criticizing their looks, when they’re sooo much uglier inside?

    • thebigslime
      384·
      5 months ago

      It’s fair to attack someone’s looks when it is a point of pride they assert themselves. He obviously thinks he’s some kind of hotshot macho man, so kicking him when he’s down is fine given the crimes he’s committed and how generally awful he is. It is not the same as making fun of a random person’s appearance for no reason.

        • Aeao
          7·
          5 months ago

          Lol that’s wild. What color is your Bugatti now mother f*cker lol

            • Aeao
              1·
              5 months ago

              Unfortunately it wouldn’t be fair to call him a fucker now. The only thing he’s fucking these days is a rolled up pillow. It’s disrespectful to the true fuckers of the world. He gets an *

      • Katana314English
        13·
        5 months ago

        I mean, let’s try it based on the gut check, based on a fictional billionaire.

        “That bastard passed a bill that lets him appropriate community funds to repair his six - SIX mansions while the community suffers. And you know what’s almost as bad? He’s BLACK.”

      • surph_ninja
        921·
        5 months ago

        Doesn’t really matter if it’s fair. It’s not right. And your eagerness to jump to it, once you feel justified to do so, says a lot about your own character.

        • MellowYellow13
          11·
          5 months ago

          You aren’t the sole decider of what is right and wrong my dude, wtf lmao. You are righteous beyond belief

          • surph_ninja
            11·
            5 months ago

            Of course I’m not. You believe anything I’m saying to be outside of societal norms?

          • surph_ninja
            52·
            5 months ago

            I’m advocating not to stoop to that level. You’re reveling in the opportunity to.

            Which of us do you think is more like Tate?

              • surph_ninja
                51·
                5 months ago

                ‘Judge people on their character, not their looks’ vs ‘you’re being a butthole.’

                If you had to put money on it, which of these would you bet Tate is more likely to say?

                “Be careful not to become what you hate in others.”

    • slaacaa
      241·
      5 months ago

      My feelings exactly. We have to be happy about even small wins like this

  • andros_rex
    561·
    5 months ago

    Mainly I’m going to slave these bitches […] I’m going to make them work even more hours and hours and hours… I work these bitches like slaves. […] SLAVE work. Minimum 10 or 12 hours a day."

    “I don’t want to tell them that they have OnlyFans, I want that money to be used by me and you, screw them…”

    “I don’t want them to have the passwords, I don’t want them to have anything.”

    The death penalty is kind for men like this.

    • underwire212@lemm.ee
      8·
      5 months ago

      The Tate brothers, and some of the women working for them, previously told investigators that the allegations are the result of jealousy.

      Projection

      • feedum_sneedson
        5·
        5 months ago

        Yeah I look like Nosferatu, it’s a bald white thing. Although apparently Tate’s dad was black? Either way.

        Edit: I should clarify, I look like a jacked Nosferatu. I’ll manage.

        • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
          3·
          5 months ago

          I certainly don’t mean to bodyshame bald people, I meant more Tate going and living in Romania to do sex crimes only to return to England looking like he’s been living in a coffin full of dirt was the nosferatu maxxing trend

    • formergijoe
      4·
      5 months ago

      It’s more likely steroids used to make him an “alpha male.”

  • mhague
    241·
    5 months ago

    Seeing his face is like hearing a vicious slur.

  • rcbrk@lemmy.mlEnglish
    201·
    6 months ago

    Flows nicely, but it’s an inaccurate collage of plot elements.

    • Isildur lost the ring in a river.
    • Déagol found the ring in a river.
    • Sméagol killed Déagol for the ring.
    • Sméagol (now Gollum) lost the ring in a cave.
    • Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, Frodo, Gollum, 🌋?
    • PieMePlenty
      7·
      5 months ago

      So one thing I don’t get… Hobbits are supposed to be like a nice race, not easily corruptible, all they want is food and peace. A hobbit would be the best race to trust with the one ring. Bilbo had it for like 80+ years and gave it away, Frodo threw it away and ignored it for like 18 years, Sam didn’t give a shit about it… So why did it corrupt Sméagol so? He was a hobbit too.

      • Tattorack
        16·
        5 months ago

        That’s the thing, though. It did corrupt them.

        Almost everyone who touched the ring immediately got curropted by it, with the exception of Frodo, but in the end it did work on him anyway.

        Bilbo tried keeping the ring a secret as soon as he found it.

        Sam had difficulties giving the ring back to Frodo, and he only had it for a day or two.

        And if I remember correctly, I think the situation with Sméagol was accelerated for the movie scene.

        • PieMePlenty
          4·
          5 months ago

          Yeah, I get that. They were all influenced in some way. I thought hobbits were supposed to be perfect for the job as they were considered lesser in power than the other races, so the ring wouldn’t really empower them as much, thus less chance of corruption. The same reason they couldnt just fly to Mt Doom on the eagles as they were a powerful race, more susceptible to corruption. Gollum wanted the ring more than life itself and killed for it very quickly so I find its just that aspect I find hard to believe.

          • slingstone
            10·
            5 months ago

            Smeagol had the ring for nearly 500 years and never completely succumbed to its power like the ring-wraiths did. While he was corrupted, he still had a spark of himself under all those centuries of madness. I believe Gandalf specifically points this out somewhere. Something about the nature of hobbits enabled them to resist the ring better than any other race, even the high elves that had lived on Valinor–heck, even Gandalf, a Maia, feared to take up the ring. The only person who seemed able to bear it with no corruption was Tom Bombadil in the books.

          • medgremlin@midwest.social
            10·
            5 months ago

            I have interpreted it less as “the hobbits are less powerful”, and more as “what would a powerful hobbit even want?”.

            If a hobbit had all the power in Middle Earth, they would have an amazingly cozy hobbit hole with the best food and their parties and garden would be the envy of every hobbit and probably some elves and men. Hobbits don’t really have much interest in conquest, and their definition of dominance includes being well-liked or admired by those they dominate.

      • howsetheraven
        222·
        5 months ago

        Aww you’re right. We can’t throw shade at the genocide supporting right wing grifter.

          • Encrypt-KeeperEnglish
            3·
            5 months ago

            Supported genocide. Palestinian specifically. And not like “Supports Israel and thinks civilian casualties are an unfortunate inevitability of war”, but very unapologetically thinks the Palestinians should die.

            • GladiusB
              2·
              5 months ago

              Never listen that much to him. Just watched his stream for a bit when he played FFXIV. No idea he did that.