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cross-posted from: https://piefed.jeena.net/post/119614
“The real benchmark is: the world growing at 10 percent,” he added. “Suddenly productivity goes up and the economy is growing at a faster rate. When that happens, we’ll be fine as an industry.”
Needless to say, we haven’t seen anything like that yet. OpenAI’s top AI agent — the tech that people like OpenAI CEO Sam Altman say is poised to upend the economy — still moves at a snail’s pace and requires constant supervision.
I believe them: if anybody knows mediocre worthless software, it’s Microsoft.
Honestly, I expect this AI bubble to implode with much more devastation than the dot-com bubble.
And it’s not even that AI is useless. Like the internet (during dot-com) it will definitely have good uses.
But (a) those uses will take many years to crystallize and mature and (b) the early capital-intensive movers have a big disadvantage and most of them don’t have a feasible path to recoup the money invested into them.
This is why the AI club is licking Trump’s boot. They will get the federal government to bail them out by buying overpriced AI products and services and taking over worthless investments “in the interest of national security”.
American taxpayers are going to foot this bill and they will not like it when they start seeing the effects.
Agreed. Except for the taxpayer reaction part. American taxpayers who then vote republiQan never seem to give a flying shit what happens to all the money.
I don’t understand your point.
The effects Iean are things like inflation and cuts in social security.
If you mean that Republicans will find a way to rationalize blaming the libs - I agree that will happen.
But they won’t actually like the inflation and lower social security.
More the latter about rationalization. In the real world such things would affect electability. But in our 24/7 Propaganda Turd Circus it will have no effect.
Gotcha, totally agree
As long as it doesn’t go to “those people”, they’re fine with the spending.
The motto of the American voter is “Me First.” If they get theirs, the government can burn the money for all they care.
If only that were true. That is at least a rational response that can be worked around.
But COVID told us just how many conservatives will laugh on their death bed if they’ve been convinced that what’s happening to them ‘owns the libs’.
It’s a cult and so reality is whatever the cult leaders say it is, even if that reality is harming them directly.
The highest population growth rate in recorded human history was sometime between 1965 and 1970, when the population was growing at about 2.1% annually. It’s down around 1.1% now. 10% hasn’t been realistic since we went from 10 humans to 11 humans.
(Note: I go on research benders. This particular rabbit hole (pun intended) became really interesting from a terrifying sci-fi perspective; kind of like a reverse Children of Men. As I wrote it up, it started to feel like an apocalyptic xkcd What If.)
So, think about the sheer numbers–for a 10% growth rate, we’d need more than eight hundred million births per year. There are only 1.9 billion women of childbearing age on Earth, which means that a little under half of every woman between 15 and 49 would need to be pregnant every single year in order to make that target (a little more than that to account for women who aren’t able to be pregnant for whatever reason, a little less than that to account for multiple births, let’s just say those will wash out).
Let’s imagine that this happened this year. Right now, we have about 132 million births annually. That would mean that we’d need about seven times the number of maternity wards, fully staffed. Five years after this unprecedented baby boom, we’d need to begin increasing the number of classrooms worldwide by a factor of 7 as well, which would mean that seven times the number of college students would have to go into education this year. We’d need to massively ramp up food production, probably starting sometime in the late 90s. We’d need to massively scale up infrastructure and housing on a Chinese scale. In 2050, our annual birth rate would equal our 2025 population, meaning we’d be adding an additional everyone who’s here right now every single year.
Interestingly, this would cause a precipitous and sustained spike in our death rate, since 0.2% of women worldwide die during childbirth. This means 1.6 million women dying in childbirth every year between 2025 and 2040 (which almost exactly balances out the number of women coming to childbearing age during those years to replace them), or the first couple months of COVID happening perpetually, but for women in childbearing. Every woman would have, on average, seventeen children by age 49, and if you know 33 women under the age of 49, one of them will die in childbirth.
In 2040, we’d have to start ramping up production again as the ten percent growth rate would begin forcing (because that’s obviously the only way for it to work) half of the 400 million women born in 2025 to start having their own children. Fifteen years later, do it again. Fifteen years later, do it one more time.
But you can probably stop worrying about it by that point. Studies are incredibly mixed on the total carrying capacity of Earth, ranging from 2 billion to 1.024 trillion, but a 10% growth rate would get us to even the most gigantic estimates within 50 years.
At some point, the pendulum begins swinging the other way; whether due to famine, water shortages, pandemics, climate change, or any number of other factors, there will be a huge increase to the global death rate once again. Our population would stabilize at our global carrying capacity; and from that point on, Earth’s line can never go up again without the line going down first.
It’s so patently ludicrous. Just total nonsense.
I think they meant the economy, not population, but still, quality comment right here.
People who don’t do math are doomed to talk nonsense. And you just used math to showcase the stupidity. Bravo, sir.
One of my pet peeves is all the people concerned about the birth rate.
We are at a time in the history of the planet where there have never existed as many homo sapiens as there are today, and that record will get broken every day for the next 20-50 years.
Of all the times to want a higher birth rate since we have existed as a species, this just ain’t the time where it makes any kind of logical sense.
I began to wonder where that quote was, it’s here:
“The real benchmark is: the world growing at 10 percent,” he added. “Suddenly productivity goes up and the economy is growing at a faster rate. When that happens, we’ll be fine as an industry.”
Of course, through IVF you could probably do it with about one third of that amount of women. Just thinking like a manager here.
“I wasted a shit-ton of money and boiled the earth for epic AI profit and all I got was this lousy podcast”