Meanwhile, Babylon 5
The best Star Trek series was Babylon 5, just like how the best Star Trek movie was Galaxy Quest.
I thought the best Star Trek series is The Orvil?
The best modern one, yes.
I couldn’t get into The Orville. Seemed rather presumptuous that you can apply human morals to aliens.
You mean like in Star Trek?
Then I suggest something like Farscape.
I feel like Star Trek did it better? They didn’t say Vulcan’s shouldn’t have Pon Farr, they worked together to solve the situation.
So, I just started Babylon 5 and find it to be quite shit actually. Does it get better? It’s really just bad acting and not really engaging. I’m 4 episodes in.
If I was recommending somebody how to watch B5 for the first time, I’d probably just say to skip the first season (as well as the pilot). In my opinion, Commander Sinclair is the weakest link in the acting, and he leaves after the first season. His replacement is a very good actor, in my opinion.
Also, as far as acting goes, Ambassadors Mollari and G’Kar get more screen time as the series progresses, and I think they’re both great actors.
The first season does have a lot of background that sets up later seasons, and I’ve grown to like it, but I’ve seen the entire series probably over 10 times now, and for the first 3-4 times, I disliked the first season.
Sinclair is a good actor. He was just on the mental decline during filming.
Nice, i was hoping to hear something like this! I’ll just stick to it. At the moment I’m enjoying a 2nd run of The Expanse, so I’ll likely pick up Babylon 5 after that.
The first season had the TV execs meddling to make it be like ST:TNG because they wanted to mimic the popular thing at the time.
The writer got his way starting in season 2 and got to tell his story without the meddling.
Yes it gets better is what I’m saying. 🙂
And then in season 5 it gets way worse. Those middle three are alright, though.
Season 5 is worse than 2-4, but not worse than S1. The problem is that B5 was always on the verge of being canceled, and so I think they finished the main story in Season 4, and so there’s as much going on in Season 5, except for tying up loose ends and finishing character arcs. So, they added weak filler shit like the colony of rogue telepaths.
Season five is fucking great when you know the circumstances. This was a show with a meticulously planned five year arc. They abruptly got told “yeah nah, we’re cancelling you end of s4”. So a massive, massive rewrite to roll up and finish off the Shadow war and just after they pulled it off “actually the ratings pulled up, you can have your fifth season”
With no more arc.
So they pulled the entire fifth season out of their arses in a very short span of time. With no more story to tell. And you know what? It’s a fuckin’ testament to the skill of those involved it turned out half decent
“They may have a point” -Farscape
What the Harvey?
It is a joke compared to the three mentioned. It’s one series with a few shitty tv movies vs three whole franchises with multiple series, movies, books etc. that are all known by everyone, it’s very much not the same.
B5 has a bunch of books too and there was B5 Crusade as its spinoff series which got Fireflyed.
Does that means it’s making a comeback as well
They had an animated film in 2023 called The Road Home so they had a head start
They actually had one in the works then covid happened and then it was in development and then networks collapsed and studios ate each other and now the whole things in development hell
Lmao last b5 movie was released in 2023
TIL I’m genderfluid.
Just like water in Spanish: el água / las águas.
That fucking hurt my eyes. Agua aguas, no tilde there.
¡Es ño tilde señor!
Graçias¡!
In Spanish is called tilde, in English you don’t have a name for that so I use the Spanish name.
In English “á” is just an accentuated a, where a tilde is “~”
It’s called an acute accent.
¿Por qué hay una tilde en mis pantalones?
Make me. Actually, make my Portuguese auto corrector. I dare you.
Make you what? Now Portuguese? Are you ok?
Chill, dude. It’s a joke.
This is only because spanish doesn’t like repeating “a” sounds like la agua would have since it can create ambiguity in the sentence. If agua was la agua the words would probably eventually end up smushed together making lagua instead.
Other romance languages have words that really change gender tho. I think Italian and Romanian do. Arguably they are neuter but have in singular masculine endings and in plural feminine or was it the other way around
OP forgot an older one:
Firefly?? Farscape?
The collective fandom of Star Fox looks at one another awkwardly.
We don’t talk about the furries.
Not because we don’t like them, but because that shit’s complicated
It was never the same once Fox had to gather bafomdads…
My champion:
but where does that leave dune
Or Battlestar Galactica
Where it’s always been, sitting on the Foundation trilogy’s shoulders, while in turn supporting the rest of the whole genre on its own shoulders.
In the sand, most likely.
There are only two genders! Sci-fi and fantasy! And I lay with both!
I’m so fluid right now.
Battlestar won’t stand for this indignation!
Is it too much to want them all?
Meanwhile, in the cool sector of the universe:
You’d have to be a real smeg head to do that.
I mean, as long they clean it in between uses
I’m pretty sure Stargate is a slur when used this way.
The split is hard sci-fi / sci-fi fantasy.
I have always seen the soft/hard sci-fi as a sliding scale. I imagine it is like the mohs scale for minerals with diamonds as a 10.
Stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey is a solid 10 until after HAL is shutdown and even with the bizarre ending it is fully in the “sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic” and still something like 8.5-9
Star Trek is pretty good about being internally consistent and having day to day stuff be pretty grounded but there is so much purely nonsense trecknobable that I only consider it a 6 out of 10.
Very different story and world but I would rate Stargate about the same. Maybe actually a bit higher. Mostly because it is a newer series that was better able to track its own weird stuff it had claimed and keep it consistent.
Star Wars something like 4.5. still gets ok because of mostly internal consistency but definitely leans strongly the fantasy elements that are mixed in.
Does this mean I’m non-trinary?
What about Lexx?
Furries
Mmh, kinky!
