What am I missing? AI wasn’t really much a thing until the last year or so. How could currenty college computer science students possibly have dwindling math skilks due to AI?
The lack of math preparedness is an unrelated factor, and is probably due to the decline in high school math standards in California over the past decade due to the implementation of “Common Core” curriculum.
This wouldn’t be a problem if the jobs that don’t actually require a degree (so jobs that aren’t doctors, engineers, etc.) wouldn’t require one
For example, my job can be done by anyone who can write well enough and knows our local language, plus English. I’ve got a C2 English certificate plus a state English exam
But nooo, some suit decided that this job that I’ve already been doing for 10 years without a degree suddenly ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES one, or I’d get fired
So I went to a lesser known university, cheated and bribed my way through, didn’t learn shit, but suddenly that useless paper is more valuable than my last 10 years of experience
Imagine paying for college and using AI to skip the learning part.
Because a lot of people don’t see college as a learning opportunity but as an earnings opportunity since most high paying jobs require a degree. Money being involved corrupts the whole learning process.
That’s a degree mill, not a university.
In the US it’s become the same thing and AI is making it go even more quickly in that direction
I went to the gym and used a forklift to lift the weights.
The job only cares that you’re forklift certified.
I try to use this analogy everywhere. It’s perfect!
Because those idiots just want the paper and a job and $$. The problem with this genius plan is sooner or later it catches up with them , when they get fired or kicked out of med school or grad school.
We have never had as many professional faculties kick students out as in the last 2 years at my university. All entered with A+ transcripts. My own courses are now 100% back to paper quizzes, and digital notes will not be shared and 1/3 of lectures are back to the chalkboard. When they learn this on first lecture, 1/4 drop the course -don’t let the door hit your asses on the way out. Have fun in PSYCH.
As someone else above pointed out, part of the problem is that degrees are required for damn near any job that isn’t customer service. Most young people are told over and over again that they NEED to go to college. They’re not there to learn or bc they want to prepare for a specific job. They’re there bc they HAVE to
lol I left a similar comment. this tracks with my experience
I work at a university and also have many degrees. You’d be amazed at the number of times I have heard people tell me that they aren’t interested in learning, they just want the paper so that they can get a job. For many people, improvement and growth aren’t part of the equation, they are only focusing on a future paycheck.
This tracks with a deteriorating society where status and connections are more important than skills or knowledge.
Typical MBA.
Except when it matters, like building a bridge or heading into a serious surgery.
That’s when you follow your degree with an MBA, so you can run things and don’t need to know anything about anything other than fellating your boss.
Fuck MBAs.
Sincerely, a data analyst that regularly has to deal with number-junkies so high on their own buzzwords they struggle to comprehend the petty constraints we people who actually want to measure facts are burdened with.
they navigate a degree constantly pinging reddit for the bird courses then post “where’s my $200,000 job” like they are victims.
This does happen. It’s also why I suggest that most people probably shouldn’t study CS. CE/EE is a much more stable field.
Because US colleges are becoming degree mills.
I would have used it because the class requirements are ridiculous. I forget if these are the correct numbers but to get through my degree you had to average 17 credits per semester. 15 is max full time and you had to get permission to take more than that. Half the people in my course were taking 5 years. I have thermodynamics and calc 2 homework, ai could write my sociology or art history paper.
You don’t have to graduate in 4 years. There’s a reason they were taking 5 years. So they didn’t burn themselves out. You already failed the first lesson of adulting.
I and many people have to graduate in 4 years because that’s how long scholarships last.
Yes Virginia, University is hard.
What?
I see skipping cultural literacy to focus on “real” subjects has paid off nicely for you
Yes, I’m an engineer. My focus on the subjects I’ve needed has paid off immensely.
I find it funny that everyone is just going ad hominem instead of continuing the actual discussion of the shortcomings of the current education system.
Not that it matters, I’ve been a developer for 15 years and unemployed for the last 18 months. There are no jobs right now, and it doesn’t seem like there’s going to be any anytime soon.
There are SD jobs in India. That’s what companies mean by AI.
I’ve been in industry for 10 years, got let go and have also been unemployed. The industry is terrible right now. I’m looking to career switch because I’d rather make less money doing something I love than continue to put a paycheck above my morals.
My hope is that after the bubble pops, the engineers who haven’t had their brains rotted away by AI tools become much more valuable
We are the same person…
Developers are not computer scientists.
There’s software engineering degrees with less math reqs if you just want to be a code monkey
I honestly don’t know what you’re trying to say here. There really isn’t other degrees in software, MIS for instance is a degree in IT. My degree is in computer science with a minor in math.
There are degrees in software engineering. That’s the name of the degree.
It’s more focused on programming and less focused on science
You could make a start-up search-engine that reliably filters out any AI content.
$10 per year subs. I’ll be your first subscriber :]
Reliably detecting AI content would require AI to be reliable in the first place in order to be clearly detectable.
Unless you serve no results at all, of course.
Crowd-sourced flagging could identify the AI or non-AI content, along with white listing certain trusted domains.
You only need to clear the top 2 pages of each search query string, because that is pretty much all people use.
Unfortunately there will be many users more likely to flag viewpoints they disagree with than actual AI, so you’ll end up creating people who associate AI-flagging with censorship.
Exactly, plus if it becomes popular at all. Corporate bad actors will intentionally poison the results.
Not if you hand the voting power out randomly, like early Slashdot. Every 300th-2000th visitor gets to vote on the content.
Which is weird because I have an opening for multiple devs yet all I’m getting are bots.
Where?!? We recently moved to the largest city in my state and I still haven’t had any better luck. I’ve applied to over 150 jobs and had two interviews 14 months apart… I had a recruiter tell me that they’ve only had a couple jobs go by their desk in the last few months, and each of them was for a very very specific software stack. And the worst part is that the amount of spam calls that I get tell me that half of these jobs have just been honey pots.
Hire me? https://matdombrock.com/
Send me the application I’ll apply
I’m sure it’s only happening at Berkeley :P
At Harvard students aren’t even showing up to lectures.
In a few years, you can wipe your ass with those degrees.
What’s unusual about this is that to get into Berkeley CS you’re already a super elite student. AI hasn’t been around for so long that these people cheated through high school.
The question is: to cheat or not to cheat and use your brain?
