• @[email protected]
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    Buddy…

    1. Turn your shirt inside out before putting it in the machine.
    2. Set the machine to cold water, delicate/gentle cycle.
    3. The picture you posted is of a dry, hot desert, right? What do you think a machine called a dryer that uses heat will do? Hang them to dry on a cheap rack from Amazon or your shower curtain rod instead.

    I have shirts that still look practically new after dozens and dozens of washes.

      • @Branch_Ranch
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        How do you insert an image like this in comments? I can only get the link to the image to show up. Thanks.

        • @FlickeringScreens
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          When you post it the image should show up, even if it just looks like a link when typing the comment

          • Redjard
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            In markdown, there is the notation []() for links. Reddit allowed it too for examples, and generally a lot of programs and platforms that have mild text formatting use markdown.
            [some text](https://example.org/some-link) will turn into some text

            Lemmy has basically extended this with ![]() which shows the content of the link
            ![some text](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Example.png) will turn into some text

            Where did that “some text” go? It’s basically the placeholder for when the image is loading or failed to load, the correct term is the alt-text.

            The image @[email protected] was asking about uses the text
            ![](https://ttrpg.network/pictrs/image/396cb01b-6b2b-4351-9cd5-0742c2914719.png)
            It has no alt text. Any frontent that has an image upload button or similar will upload the image somewhere, take the link, and put it into your post like this.

            I hope your frontend renders code-blocks and escapes with backslash (\) correctly, else this may look weird to you.

        • @[email protected]
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          If you are on the correct website, you may have a view source button, so you can see the markdown source everyone writes to form their post.

        • @[email protected]
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          For me it’s the 5th button above the typing field for a reply/comment (bold/italic/link/emoji/“upload image”). There is also the syntax format you can manually do which you can find in the formatting help link. an ! with [] then (url) no spaces (hard to show without the format wanting to change it).

          edit: I believe the proper use of “upload image” is if you want to share an image from your device which it uploads onto the lemmy server space, using the url to link to another website also works but there is always the problem of size/format of the image and if that link becomes broken your image won’t show.

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            hard to show without the format wanting to change it

            Could use a code block for this:

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      Do you really think his mom is going to go through all that?

      • @[email protected]
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        1. OP can turn them inside out themselves when they take the shirts off and put them in the dirt clothes hamper.
        2. You don’t change the settings for every individual article of clothing. You turn the knob or press the button once. This is not hard.
        3. Hanging stuff up is easier and faster than folding it. The actual drying part is slow though.
        • @Smoogs
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          I don’t know what’s more sexist. the comment above or the fact you played off of it seriously. Especially with point 1. Like it doesn’t even register that the above comment was an insult and not serious at all and you took that sexist joke to a serious place to play off that men aren’t expected to even be capable to turn a knob and that is somehow acceptable. Do them better than this.

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            Works both ways though. That was a big point of contention while I was married: if you want special treatment for any item of clothes, it’s up to you to at least turn it inside out and sort it into the “special needs” bin. I’m not reading every label on all the clothes for the entire family.

            However she never did. Just complained when it went through the normal wash with hundreds of other items. Who’s your momma now? Your big hairy momma with a beard?

          • @Doof
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            I’m pretty sure they were mocking their lack of responsibility vs saying only women do laundry. It’s the same joke as saying you live in your parents basement.

          • @[email protected]
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            My assumption was the joke was that OP’s mom does their laundry for them as if is OP was a child, not that women are constrained to doing laundry. It’s not like I didn’t clock the joke. The kernel of truth was the idea that doing those 3 things might be a pain to do, and even my partner complained about having to be careful with certain clothing when I taught her how to do the laundry (which I still primarily do), but it’s good for people to have these skills, regardless of gender. On the flip side, she stopped complaining when she realized how much longer her clothing lasts now.

            Also, my parents divided chores up, and my mom was in charge of the laundry while my dad did the cooking growing up because they each preferred doing those chores. Had nothing to do with gender, but maybe that’s why I didn’t immediately consider the assumption that somebody’s mother does their laundry as sexist. Sometimes, it’s just like that.

            On the topic of you making wild assumptions about another’s thought process (unless you’re a mind reader, and I missed that), I was carrying on to say with my comment that OP should do all that. Not their mother.

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              Sometimes, it’s just like that.

              Assuming traditional roles to cramp on a sexist joke is sexist. You played a part in how you interacted with it even ignoring it, tagging onto it. Backpeddling just makes it worse. You should probably stop while you’re ahead

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                Sorry, I haven’t had somebody jump to the worst possible conclusion about what I meant for the sake of being argumentative and flexing their moral superiority in a public space since college, so I’m a little out of practice here.

                Please stop telling me what I think after I corrected you. That’s gaslighting. Additionally, as a nonbinary person, I also don’t appreciate a stranger forcing their paradigm of gender roles onto me like that. Please check yourself.

                • @Smoogs
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                  Nobody light a match this strawperson argument is getting real big in here.

          • @[email protected]
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            Are women excluded from the group of people whose “mommies do everything for them”? Perhaps commonly, it’s a genuine question.

            I do see the thought of it being a mom instead of a dad adheres to traditional gender roles, although I wonder about an individual’s obligation to resist playing into that tradition. I can see it being harmful.

    • @Son_of_dad
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      I hate the way hanged shirts feel, so stiff and wrinkly

      • androogee (they/she)
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        I went to the store to buy a candle holder, but they didn’t have one… So I bought a cake.

      • @theangryseal
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        He ain’t say “bruh don’t even wash them”.

        • @[email protected]
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          I actually have a pretty sensitive sense of smell.

          The smell is caused by bacteria blooming. If you’re using good detergent, it kills the bacteria. Likewise, soap is bipolar, so one end of the molecule grips the oils you excrete and grime you pick up, and the hydrophilic end gets it all yoinked off during the rinse.

          • @Spyro
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            Just fyi the term for molecules with hydrophobic and hydrophilic regions is amphipathic not bipolar.

    • Rob Bos
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      Even just hang drying will do wonders. Also for your budget. That’s like 5 dollars a week saved.

      • @[email protected]
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        We hang dry most of my wife’s stuff because it’s more delicate, hand made garments and such, but even that takes up two of those foldable hanging rack things. If we did all mine too we’d have no room to walk in our apartment. Just another way it costs more to be poor.

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    I wash all my band shirts in a washing machine at 40C with only color detergent and no fabric softener. I hang dry the tshirts on hangers instead of folding them over the clothes line or using clothes pins. Absolutely no dryer outside of whatever the washing machine does.

    It works pretty well. The real secret is to have about 30 of them so you don’t wash them every week.

    Edit: like another commenter said, wash your clothes inside out.

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        Honestly, even I was even my gym clothes on cold, and it works just fine. The hotter settings are more for stain removal.

  • @TehBamski
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    IIRC: To prevent this from happening or slowing down the occurrence, turn your shirt inside out before you put it in the washing machine and dryer. Set both to the lowest or second lowest temperature for both machines. Works well for me. But as others have said, air drying is the best way to treat them. Me on the other hand…

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      Hmm, this is kinda funny to me, where I live we usually don’t have or don’t use dryers, we have “ropes” where we hang all the clothes, laundry is usually done at weekends and the clothes can stay there all day if needed (which most likely don’t).

      I mean, we have a freaking imponent sun right now, we better use it (36 Celsius right now).

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    For clothes I have 2 rules: 1) If the zipper is not made by YKK, fuck it I don’t need that article 2) I never buy cheap screen printed fabric t shirts. DTG on cotton all the way.

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          holy fucking shit i can’t stop laughing. how is destiny now? stopped playing after lightfall and the vex glaive missions dropped.

          • @[email protected]
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            I myself slowed down around then (Nimbus’ bulge was just too much).

            Played a little bit but the underwater season and then the tarot card season were pretty dull and the game hasn’t had anything exciting happen in years.

            Might try and do the final shape just to close out the character arc for my character I’ve had since d1 launch but I don’t have much patience with it.

            I occasionally watch streams. they released a horde mode that takes place on crucible maps with a boss that teleports you to a pyramid ship - and some slight crucible variants (the zones now move)

            But really, nothing big as yet.

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        You can feel it. The DTG print is very flexible, it feels like the fibre just has another color. The screen print feels like a sheet of rubber that was attached to the shirt.

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    I’ve had a couple of t shirts through the years where the fabric itself seems to have been dyed into an image instead of just being screen printed on. I get it obviously must be more expensive, but it holds up amazingly and I wish more places out there did this.

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      I once bought some cheap-ass knockoff merch shirt that was printed like that. And shit cost, like, five bucks.

      (In retrospect, I’m not proud of buying products of likely slave labor, but what’s done is done.)

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        There is slave labor at aome point in pretty much every product you use. The cotton used for your shirt, the cocoa in your chocolate bar, the strawberry you had in your salad today, all likely had forced labor to some degree. Even the cartoon you watched last night might have been animated bu some korean child.

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          Yeah it’s actually wild to find out how much of animation got exported to nations that we aren’t even allowed to trade food too.

        • @[email protected]
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          Lul that last point is so recent too. Crazy that north Korea was just animating for these big companies.

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              Here’s a CNN link that talks about how they were animating for shows like invincible. Iirc the people behind the show didn’t know but it’s a symptom of the problem with outsourcing everything.

              • @[email protected]
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                Yeah oir economy is so abstract that everything becomes subcontracted out to another firm. I have a product I can’t make, so i give company X $2million to make it. They cant do it, so they give company Y$500,000 to make it. Company Y doesn’t have the means, so they pay company Z $100,000 to make it. Company Z has the ability to make it, so they pay 2 dozen people in Cambodia $3 a day for a month to make all the units i need.

  • @Doof
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    Air dry your graphic tees people!

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          distilled white vinegar, in moderation, can have the same effect, with less severe downsides. my clothes actually dry better with it, since it neutralizes and removes the alkaline detergents that never fully rinse out in a normal water wash. it requires some finesse to know what fabrics to use it on, but I’ve had great results with it

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        The fact that anyone is using anything higher than low for their clothes is shocking. If your clothes aren’t drying, it means you need to split the load into 2 separate ones, people!

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          People are wildly impatient about the dumbest things. I’ve been trying to push heat pump dryers because they use like a fourth of the electricity of a standard electric dryer but people don’t want to because it takes slightly longer to dry heavy things like towels. But they have the added benefit of using very little heat because they’re abusing the fact that they are condensers and are making the air very very dry so they don’t need as much heat so they are far gentler on clothing

          But they just hard refuse Despite the fact i know for an absolute fact all these people wait fucking hours after dryer is done to collect it or move it around. So it’s a worthless argument

        • @Doof
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          If you have to pay you will fill the machine with more

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            I’ve seen these dummies absolutely fill a dryer, and then have to pay to run it a second time because everything’s still damp. So they’re spending the same amount, but wasting more time (assuming you have access to two or more machines, which usually you do if you’re paying for it).

            • @I_Fart_Glitter
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              I used to know a guy that was really stinky. I was hanging out with him once while he was doing his laundry and watched him cram clothes in to the washing machine with all his might, then leverage himself against the opposite wall with is legs to get the door to close. I told him this is the wrong way, the clothes will not get clean. “But water runs through the clothes! I’m not going to waste space in the washer!” When I pointed out that the clothes in the center of the impacted fabric wad was not even wet at the end of the wash he explained that this was because the spin cycle was so efficient.

              Observe the fill line people.

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                  It wasn’t even at the laundromat!! He was renting a room over a garage and had laundry privileges. He just didn’t want to do laundry very often. I started actually doing his laundry for him for a while, just to show him what clean clothes could be like. He got fussy about me not “folding the way he liked” so I told him he was on his own.

        • @Buddahriffic
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          Also you can just keep it going. An hour usually does the trick for me, but occasionally I’ll extend it for another 30 mins. I wouldn’t be surprised if that still uses less energy than just 30 mins high.

          Plus, I wouldn’t be surprised if the times I do extend it aren’t necessary. Like it’s not even at the damp point, it’s just at the point where it’s ambiguous if they still have a bunch of moisture and have been fine when I decide to just take them out.

          Which is another good sign for drying on low: it doesn’t matter if there isn’t any more moisture to evaporate, they are just being warmed instead of cooked.

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            occasionally I’ll extend it for another 30 mins. I wouldn’t be surprised if that still uses less energy than just 30 mins high.

            My dryer’s “energy saver” setting is just an hour on low with the moisture sensor reducing the time if needed.

    • @Psythik
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      I hand wash and air dry the few shirts I care about.

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    This happened to me with a shirt I got for pride almost a year in advance that said “GAY TRASH” and when I went to wear it all it said was “G AS”

    I still think about that to this day

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    Washing it wrong, check the label, some clothes require specific settings, or need to be inside out

    • @Evotech
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      Survival of the fittest

      I don’t want weak clothes

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      almost all of those cheap iron on thick ass layered prints do this. they grate your skin then dissolve off the shirt. I’ve taught my 9 year old how to pick out good graphic tees, no shitty iron on mass produced trash.

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        Precisely, it’s really just a matter fact of reading the tags to understand how to care for the shirt

  • guyrocket
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    And that “tagless label” is gone after the first wash too.

    Doing their best to kill the used clothing market.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      The used clothing market hinges on an annoying piece of extra fabric that stabs me in the back of the neck?

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        Oh yeah, good shirts are practically the same as vampires or weird rich people.
        They need a constant supply of blood to keep up it’s appearance.

    • @[email protected]
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      Tagless labels disappearing isn’t ideal. It’s a bummer that clothing has been produced so cheaply over the last some years that now much of it, which is donated overseas, ends up not being worth repairing and/or reselling.

  • @Downcount
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    If they look like this after a week, they are not your best t-shirts.

    Also: you can actually feel, if the paint is going to look like this after some time.

    • @fishpen0
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      Yep this is the cheapest printing method that basically stamps hot plastic into the shirt fabric. Any self respecting brand these days pays the .30 more per shirt to have them screen printed instead of vinyl or DTG printed

      I swear live nation and Ticketmaster are in cahoots to keep shitty vinyl press shops in business

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        I swear live nation and Ticketmaster are in cahoots to keep shitty vinyl press shops in business

        Shitty quality means they wear out and need replacing faster.

      • @Furbag
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        I wish more places just dyed the fabric. I have some shirts that are 10+ years old and look exactly like the day I bought them and they all are graphic tees with the image dyed into the shirt itself. The ones I have with a plastic-y decoration on the front, even if I take all the special precautions that other posters mention in the thread, will inevitably crack and wear out over time.

        My problem is I want to get a custom design printed, and a lot of places will advertise that they screen print, but if you go to their website and create a custom design you find that they either won’t do less than X number of shirts as a minimum order, or they will just vinyl print it anyway and send you that for $35 and it will fall apart almost instantly.

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          Most of the time print minimums exist because there’s a cost for the printer to run the job at all, regardless of size, and that minimum is the lowest amount of products that doesn’t sound insane per item. I used to work for a printshop and we had no minimums, but if you only wanted 1 business card, that business card was going to cost like $50+. You could buy 150 for cents more than that because all you were paying for was the setup and the job happening at all. The paper and ink cost wasn’t even a factor at that size.

    • @dustyData
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      Some of the worst shirts I’ve seen, both fabric quality wise and print wise, have been at concerts for my favorite bands. Some of the best as well. If you want something guaranteed to last a long time you have to pay for expensive custom made designs. But then again, this defeats the purpose of directly supporting your favorites with the extra merchandize.

  • @[email protected]
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    You should check out Dan Flashes if you want some really amazing and complicated patterns.

  • @RightHandOfIkaros
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    Don’t put them in the dryer and they last longer. Air dry is the best way to preserve these kind of designs.

  • @Dkarma
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    Low dryer heat solves this

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      Honestly just wear it wet

      No but seriously hang drying will help. Also not buying screen printed tees

  • @olutukko
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    you’re supposed to wash the turne inside out