cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22423685

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won’t work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don’t abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

  • @sga
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    For those who are want something similar to invidious, you can try youtube-local (not my project, I am just a user). It is a minimal python youtube client, and functions similar to other frontends, but runs locally. You lose some amount of privacy (youtube still has a general idea of who is watching with IPs), but it is not very exact, and there is an option to use tor to get the content. You can also enable sponsorblock, or hide yt-shorts.

  • @[email protected]
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    Not just invidious, they’ve just de facto blocked video embedding:

    If you’re wondering how a viable competitor could arise, other companies needing a video hosting solution that they can rely on to run their storefronts is a perfect use case. This is the Humble Bundle storefront, and they could pretty easily spin up a peertube instance. If that became commonplace, it could be one way for peertube to become ubiquitous.

  • Lord Wiggle
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    465 hours ago

    You can still watch YouTube without ads using grayjay.app including sponsor block.

    Thanks to Louis Rossman

      • Lord Wiggle
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        93 hours ago

        Sure, that works too, however with grayjay you can follow creaters across platforms. So in case someone’s account gets banned by YouTube due to whatever bullshit reason, you can continue following them on other platforms. Next to that you won’t get spammed with Shorts junk. If you want to download a video to watch it offline, you can actually watch it offline (you don’t require a connection like with YouTube to watch something offline)

      • @[email protected]
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        -284 hours ago

        But ur data gets raped if u don’t use a VPN + no account (but then u don’t get to see age restricted material)

        • @Mojave
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          173 hours ago

          Yo did someone hit you in the head with a golf club? Why are you talking like that?

              • @I_Miss_Daniel
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                21 hour ago

                T9 was a rapid entry system for sending texts using a number pad on a phone.

                Instead of doing hello as 44 33 555 555 666 you could do 43556 and it’d predict ‘hello’.

                • @[email protected]
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                  155 minutes ago

                  I swear I’m not. I’m just rlly rlly confused with why people r saying the things they’re saying. I don’t understand.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 hours ago

            Isn’t it true tho? YouTube’s a privacy nightmare- they know everything about ur content preferences, ur political learnings, everything. Without a VPN + no account, say goodbye to any semblance of privacy.

  • Meldrik
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    616 hours ago

    Start asking your favourite content creators to post on PeerTube.

    • @[email protected]
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      576 hours ago

      And how are they going to make a living to keep producing videos?

      I’d say ask them to join Nebula.

      • warm
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        Remember when people posted on YouTube for fun? It’s only when it became a viable business that the platform turned to shit.

      • @Fosheze
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        82 hours ago

        All the people I watch on youtube make the majority of their money on patreon or twitch. Youtube is way too heavy handed with demonitization and copyright strikes to be a trutsworthy income source.

      • @BatrickPateman
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        52 hours ago

        Patreon and all the other services creators have at their disposal already.

        Don’t think most Youtubers can make a living these days solely on YT as revenue, and are already exploring other avenues.

      • Meldrik
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        146 hours ago

        That depends. If they only make a living with YT ads, then it’s going to be hard.

        • ddh
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          125 hours ago

          About half the ads I see on YouTube are already within the videos they post. I wonder what the overall ratio is of YouTube ad revenue versus in-video ad revenue.

          • Meldrik
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            84 hours ago

            Are you talking about sponsors? Because yes, that has nothing to do with YT ads.

        • @[email protected]
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          66 hours ago

          I guess I forgot things like Patreon which could be a valid option. Although I’m neither a fan of subscribing to specific creators nor am I particularly fond of Patreon.

          With Nebula my perception is that I pay a monthly fee and they can figure out who gets what depending on whose videos I watched. I don’t need to be particular in my action on who to support.

          • Meldrik
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            84 hours ago

            Nebula is a good option, but now you’ve created a paywall. Now only people who can afford it, can watch the content and what is to keep Nebula from upping the price of the subscription?

            If ads is out of the question, then content creators need to use sponsors and patrons, if they want to make a living.

            • @[email protected]
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              An advantage of funding things via a collective like Nebula as opposed to each individual creator managing their own patrons is that new creators can start making bigger, more expensive projects quicker. Even established creators have this advantage, they can take bigger risks on bigger projects with the safety net of a share of the nebula pie.

              I don’t think a project like The Prince would exist without Nebula, for example.

          • @[email protected]
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            13 hours ago

            You could also send money via paypal or kofi if you don’t like subscriptions, if the creator has it set up.

          • Lord Wiggle
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            35 hours ago

            They also can use sponsors in the video, but that only works when you have enough views.

    • SagXD
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      46 hours ago

      Civvie 11 is a old head. How do I convince him?

      • Meldrik
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        336 hours ago

        What is the alternative name for someone who creates content for a platform?

        • ElectricMachman
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          46 hours ago

          Well, we start by referring ta work not as “content”, but as what it actually is. Then work from there. For instance, one could ostensibly call Ahoy a filmmaker or a documentary maker.

          • @[email protected]
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            114 hours ago

            Bruh that dude is a CONTENT CREATOR, not a filmmaker 😂🤣🤣

            His internet videos are colourful animations meant to serve ads while capturing attention and summarizing Wikipedia articles giving some thoughts on them, and I love them, but it’s called content for a reason.

          • @[email protected]
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            95 hours ago

            … Which is a type of content.

            There’s a lot of content that doesn’t fit neatly into a category though, because it was made by someone turning on a camera and making a video without worrying about any commercial concerns. So calling someone like that a creator is a catch all term for anyone making content for a platform.

        • ElectricMachman
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          45 hours ago

          To answer the “why”, it’s because the word “content” is kinda meaningless. Instead of making films, documentaries, talk shows, reference guides, cartoons… it’s all just this generic “content” slop that’s just there to feed the machine

            • @[email protected]
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              14 hours ago

              It’s not that strange, I have a friend who literally said the same thing today in reference to one of his favourite channels shutting down. He preferred to call the stuff on this channel art, rather than content. I agree with the person above too, the term has always bugged me. It makes it sound so mass produced, like your job is to just produce meaningless “content” for people to mindlessly consume. And to be honest, that’s exactly what the mainstream YouTube culture is about.

              • @[email protected]
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                43 hours ago

                I mean, you don’t call it whatever you like, but content is the technical definition of it.

          • JackbyDev
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            63 hours ago

            Not all content is entertaining. Someone who makes tutorials I wouldn’t call an entertainer. That’s why “content creator” is used as a catch all term to cover all of it.

          • @[email protected]
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            96 hours ago

            Showman/woman refers to a pretty specific type of performer, I.E someone who is on stage typically.

            Entertainer isn’t a label I’d necessarily apply to educational content, for example.

            • ElectricMachman
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              Then call them educators, or presenters… teachers, maybe, depending on the nature of their work

              • @[email protected]
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                105 hours ago

                Yes it’s much better to use

                “comedians/teachers/musicians/educators/entertianers/phonereviewers/sportscommenters/singers/journalists/programmers/documenters/analysts/lawyers/lockpickers/politicians/presenters/trolls”

                … than…

                “content creators”.

              • @[email protected]
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                Or just call them Content creators, recognize they don’t really produce value for anyone but YT’s grab on the attention economy and start living in the real world.

              • @[email protected]
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                65 hours ago

                What do you have against creators as a label? I don’t really see these difference myself.

  • @[email protected]
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    837 hours ago

    i absolutely despise youtube. these fuckers are putting ads on paused videos now, and then this.

    they will never get better. only worse. we need regulations badly.

        • @[email protected]
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          226 hours ago

          Competitor with no content, users is not a competitor. Youtube should be forced to share content they do not own. Just for the sake of competition.

          • @[email protected]
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            122 hours ago

            The content isn’t the problem. It’s the delivery system. No one else has the storage and network capacity that Youtube has. And as a result of that, no one else has the built-in audience Youtube has. Putting your videos on YT is simply the best way to get views.

        • Rob T Firefly
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          231 minutes ago

          Does anyone really post anything to Dailymotion besides blatantly unauthorized TV stuff? I can’t imagine it’d be very good vibes for anyone trying to make an honest living with original content over there.

        • Chloé 🥕
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          113 minutes ago

          iirc they tried to become a tiktok clone, no idea how it went but considering i never see anyone talk about it i doubt it went very well

    • @IsThisAnAI
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      You want regulations on ads for a free service?

      The entitlement is wild.

      • @[email protected]
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        Works for Albania.

        Its not like google fucking earned that money anyways. You don’t earn billions of dollars.

        Think about it. If you earned a million dollars a year, you’d be set for life. If you lived for a full hundred years you’d have only made 1/10th of a billion dollars. Despite the fact that its still more money than either of us will probably ever see.

        The people who operate google have billions with an s at the end. Think about the hardest working person you’ve known. Think about how little money they made.

        Now ask yourself, what did the people with billions do to earn that money? How hard did they have to work to justify it, and how is that level of work even humanly possible? How would a bunch of spoiled overgrown trustfund fratboys find it in themselves do that work?

        They fucking don’t. The only people who get that rich do it by cheating, and stealing, and fucking people over. Those fuckers owe us a lot more than video streaming services.

  • rustydomino
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    277 hours ago

    You can block YouTube ads simply by connecting to an Albanian VPN server.

  • @[email protected]
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    197 hours ago

    Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won’t work anymore.

    This might explain why mine has been reliable even though it hasn’t been updated in months. I guess add me to the list of confirmations that it works on residential connections.

  • @solrize
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    Sad to hear. Newpipe is still working fine (as of a couple minutes ago) if that helps. That’s through a residential IP. I will try yt-dlp from a data center IP when I get a chance. I hope they haven’t blocked that.

  • @[email protected]
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    56 hours ago

    I would suggest the devs to be able to create instances from within tor. It would be slow, but impossible to block. Or from any other network that don’t rely on single IP access to YouTube . Or, make a mesh of collaborative home instances. Google can’t block millions of home IPs. Or use any mesh collaborative network capable of it.

    • @[email protected]
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      64 hours ago

      TOR exit node IP addresses are well-known. If YouTube wants to, they can just block the TOR network.

    • bruhduh
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      34 hours ago

      Piped extractor already did this by implementing ipv6 rotator

  • @[email protected]
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    So when do we start just showing up the the doorstep of google employees?

    I work for the fucking military industrial complex and not even I would be a bad enough person to work on breaking invidious.

  • Engywuck
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    -65 hours ago

    People should learn to live without YT, instead of making an existential drama about it (about its ads, really).

    • @[email protected]
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      -54 hours ago

      This is the way. Let those content creators sucking up your time be the background noise they were always meant to be.