• @madcaesar
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    Keep using it! That’ll fix it! It’s like when a company gives you shitty service you keep giving them your business and eventually they’ll give you good service!

    That’s how it works, right?

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      Sometimes you don’t even realize you’re on it. I watched a clip on a news article. I was mildly surprised that the X branding only showed up after I started watching the clip. That clip was fine, it wasn’t even really political. Then it auto played Alex Jones talking about Democrats being traitors and trying to destroy the country.

      So when the fuck did they start removing branding on embedded stuff? And then when the fuck did they start trying to auto play videos? And videos from a completely different account and subject matter?

      If they’re that shady just visiting the website I don’t even want to think about what their apps are doing.

      • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please
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        Not sure how you got away with that… Every single time I have been forced to use Twitter for a video, it has been an awful experience. Their video player is one of the worst modern video players I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Plus they gate everything behind a login nowadays, so even embedded players in news articles won’t work unless you sign in first. Twitter is rapidly becoming Pinterest for fascists; It grabs content, then walls it behind a login page.

      • @madcaesar
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        That’s not a problem. It’s the interaction and posting that gives them power and content. Simply never interact with the site actively.

  • @darthsid
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    Yet you continue to use it…

    • @[email protected]
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      This is what I don’t get, people not migrating from a shit platform. Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, etc.

      They all just reach this critical mass where people decide the benefit of everyone else using it outweighs all the negatives of the platform being abusive to its own users

      • Flying Squid
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        FOMO is incredibly powerful unfortunately.

    • @PDFuego
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      As soon as Musk bought it I reactivated my long-dormant account so that I could delete it properly, I can’t understand why so many people are using X.

      You’re all patrons of the nazi bar, only in this case the nazis bought the bar. Twitter is dead. Migrate to somewhere else like you probably have multiple times before if you’ve been on the Internet for any amount of time.

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        I still have an account, but I’ve only ever posted 6 times and haven’t deleted it because I don’t wanna jump through the hoops of “sign in to see this content”, also because once and a while I’ll see a linked tweet about a game or artist or something and give it a heart

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          My advice would be to just block it in an adblocker browser plugin. Even if it only takes two extra clicks it does wonders to get you into the “do I really need to see this” mindset.

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      I offered to help anyone on Facebook migrate with me to mastodon who wanted to. These are people I’ve known across three towns and five different jobs. I’ve gotten and given leads and references for jobs from and to so many of them, and hope to in the future. That’s the only reason I even still have Facebook. I’m about to completely call it quits and wipe everything off the account and just leave a pinned post on my profile with a link to a mastodon profile with my real name.

      I put out the first version of that post while I’m getting my data fully packed up. Not a single response. Not even a like. I mentioned it on a post by an LGBT content creator I’ve kept up with since I worked with her ages ago. She’s been building up a portfolio of reviews of everything from beauty products to sex toys and has actually gotten some pretty interesting brand deals lately. She’d never even heard of mastodon.

      These big social media sites are so ingrained in people’s lives in so many different ways. Ultimately you’re right but every time I see a comment like this it gives…

      • @asdfasdfasdf
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        Meh, there are a bajillion other ways to participate in society. Not the same thing at all. I’ve been off Facebook for over fifteen years now and it’s been great. I text or call people, and if they care about me they do the same. Sometimes I even get cards in the mail still. It’s wonderful.

      • @AdrianTheFrog
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        I put out the first version of that post while I’m getting my data fully packed up. Not a single response. Not even a like.

        I suspect many platforms detect and shadowban content like this, or at least demote it or restrict its visibility. It’s what I would do if I ran an unethical social media platform trying to increase the number of active users.

      • @Maggoty
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        If you got zero engagement when your friends normally at least drop a thumbs up then that post never showed up on anyone’s feeds.

  • @RememberTheApollo_
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    Anti-black? Is that a substitute for “racist” to avoid censorship?

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      No. There was racism flung both ways. Only when the black person was racist was it censored.

      Anti-black

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      To be fair, it’s far more precise, being a subset of racism, especially given the context of some racist slurs being filtered while others aren’t, depending on the targeted race.

      In today’s fucked up world, it wouldn’t surprise me if anti-white and anti-black slurs were filtered but anti-hispanic and anti-asian slurs weren’t, for instance, maybe to drive nationalism regardless of race. I appreciate the additional clarity.

    • @BadmanDan
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      I think there’s more straight up anti-black people than full on racist. The world hates us 😂

      • @Test_Tickles
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        It’s possible that they are more vocally anti-black, but it has been my experience that hateful people are just full of hate. They go after the most convenient target, and have no problems with changing to another target if it is just as convenient.

        • Flying Squid
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          You are lucky enough to not know enough racists because there are plenty who restrict all their hate to one category of human.

          • @Test_Tickles
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            Don’t I wish. Frankly, I envy you your optimistic faith in humanity, but it seems a little naive to believe that someone who irrationally hates a group of people for some imaginary reason won’t just find another group and another imagined reason if the original group was to be removed.

            • Flying Squid
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              That’s a weird sort of if considering that’s not really something that happens. I have no idea how you could even prove that, for example, someone who hates black people would start hating Asians even though they had no issue with Asians before if all the black people on the planet vanished.

  • nifty
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    People, please stop using twitter. Stop giving your attention and money to terrible people. Some people, like that white lady, are weak-minded and they will never learn.

      • @horse_battery_staple
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        We’re all here commenting on it. It’s part of the outrage feedback loop.

      • don
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        Different people have different levels of tolerance to fecal matter. Some absolutely love the shit.

    • @metallic_substance
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      Shit like this makes me wonder what it would actually take to convince people to stop

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    It’s simply amazing though how many people don’t want to admit it. I mean they’re not hiding it at all but there’s so many places even here on Lemmy that love to stick their head in the sand and don’t want to acknowledge how bad it’s gotten.

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    IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon. I really think people are under estimating the severity of the vision these people have for the world.

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      Can you quantify soon here? I agree with you that they don’t have good intentions, but I think that framing it as like, a planned genocide is not accurate. More realistically what can happen is more systemic injustices and consolidations of power to prevent anyone from resisting.

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        To start with, their plan for mass deportation probably already counts as a displacement genocide. There will be thousands of deaths from it leaving aside everything else wrong with it.

        There are also approximately 3 million trans people in the US. Every single one of them is in danger as the fascists’ chosen scapegoat.

    • @Serinus
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      kill a whole bunch of people soon

      If you don’t couch this a whole lot, it undermines the seriousness of what is actually about to happen.

      Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.

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        Is the holocaust really your measurement for the meaning of “killing a bunch of people?” I don’t think things have to get all that bad to be justified in saying “a bunch of people died.”

        When you look into where contemporary right wing ideologies comes from, and what journalists are reporting on in online right wing spaces, a holocaust doesn’t seem out of the question. The Turner Diaries is worth looking into. Robert Evans is also a pretty informed journalist on the matter.

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        Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.

        Trans people, the group currently most targeted for elimination by the right, represent about 1% of the US population. Jewish people in pre-Nazi Germany also represented about 1% of the population.

        When Republicans past eliminationist laws meant to persecute trans people, deny them from public life, and kill them by taking away their healthcare, they are committing crimes of the same order as what Germany did in the 1930s.

        That is simple historical by-the-numbers truth.

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          The chilling thing for me is that Nazi Germany was able to accomplish this without the technology and mass surveillance we have today.

          It will be a slow boil and they’ll arrest people one at a time for “terrorism” and such. I won’t be surprised to see extremist militias going after people as well.

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            They won’t even need to use terrorism. Right in Project 2025 is a plan to slowly classify any public existence or acknowledgement of LGBT identities as “pornographic.” And in turn classify showing “pornography” to children is pedophilia and worthy of being put on the sex offender registry. They want to make it so if say, a trans woman, goes out in public and a child sees her, then that is the equivalent of grooming an 8 year old child by showing them pornographic videos. Oh, and they also want to attach the death penalty to crimes of pedophilia.

        • @Serinus
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          1% is 3.8 million people. They’ll likely be ostracized, forced into hiding, and we all know the effects of that.

          We’re both describing terrible things, terrible things that are short of hunting people down and loading them into trains.

          Your comparison does a disservice to everyone. Setting the bar at the damn holocaust gives our opponents an easy out. “They act like we’re”, “we’re just”, are the natural, easy responses.

          Don’t give them easy outs. Things can be less terrible than the actual Holocaust and still be terrible.

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            They’re talking about rounding up 20 million people and deporting them. Do you really think you can do that without setting up massive camps that match or exceed the scale of anything the Nazis set up? And if you really want to move that many people around, you may end up having to use trains.

            Oh, and worse, they have no plan on how to actually deport that many people. The Nazis originally planned to deport all the Jews as well. Yet they quickly found that there simply weren’t enough nations willing to accept all these deportees. Other countries aren’t obligated to accept your deportees.

            So you now have millions of people in camps, costing a fortune to maintain, and no where to send these people. That always ends in slavery, death, or death by slavery. Whenever your plan starts with “round up tens of millions of people and put them in camps,” you can guarantee that a massive death toll is going to follow.

            • @Serinus
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              And I think your comment here is a hell of a lot more valuable than starting out with “IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon.”

              You can’t just skip to the end of the worst case scenario without people blowing you off. I mostly agree with you; I just think that particular messaging is damaging.

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                I think starting off so dismissive until later in the thread makes it seem very much like you don’t mostly agree and is more damaging to the idea

      • Flying Squid
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        Maybe I’m unusual here, but if I saw 200 corpses in a big pile, I would think that someone killed a whole bunch of people.

      • @Duamerthrax
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        Rwandan genocide? The Holocaust? Israeli’s war on Palestinian. Armenian genocide? US chattel slavery? Tulsa Race Massacre? China and how they threat neighbors? South African Apartheid?

      • @SirSamuel
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        History, and a soupçon of paranoia

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            I was thinking it was soup can for a moment. Then I realized the C had it’s pants down and it dawned on me that it was a French word.

  • @[email protected]
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    I treat people who have twitter accounts the same as I would someone who chain smokes in public areas: you’re part of the mesh that prevents the substrate for nice things to exist.

    Hopefully it’s as much of collective social stigma as smoking is soon.

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      Unclear analogy - is the substrate going through the mesh the process of nice things existing? Maybe I’m thinking of substrate in a chemical sense rather than biological, or I’m just cooked. Is the mesh some sort of filter that allows bacteria to grow on the substrate (host)?

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        I take it as they’re saying, “you’re part of a framework that prevents the foundation of good things from being.”

  • DrSleepless
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    A guy from South Africa made his app anti-black? Shocking.

    • @PunnyName
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      The white guy who is only rich because of black oppression in South Africa, in fact.

    • @GrammarPolice
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      Does this comment/joke assume all white South Africans are racist?

      • TheLowestStone
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        No. It simply states that it’s not surprising when one is.

          • @pyre
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            you’re the guy who said that we can’t say the police is a racist organization because there are black cops. I wouldn’t be too involved in race conversations if I were you tbh.

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              I admit that one might have been a bad take in hindsight, but my stance is unshakeable on this issue

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            It’s bigoted to invade a county and extort them for labor because you believe the native population to be inferior.

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              I know. It is also bigoted to say you’re not surprised by a white South African being racist. That’s like saying you’re not surprised by a black African American being a criminal.

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                  Yes it is. You’re making a judgement about both groups based on the colour of their skin

          • @PunnyName
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            Oh no. White people being the target of bigotry? Welcome to the fucking club that they started.

            • @GrammarPolice
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              Just calling out the double standard man. We don’t have to continue a bad practice.

              • @grindemup
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                Sir, you are bringing logic to a Lemmy thread where only emotion matters. It doesn’t seem to be going well for you frankly.

                • @GrammarPolice
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                  I don’t know why i still bother honestly; only to be labelled a fascist/Nazi once they’re done with the downvote bombing. It’s disgusting.

                • @PunnyName
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                  It’s flawed logic. Being kind and civil to one’s oppressors is literally further oppression.

                  Were you one of those people bitching about the 2020 George Floyd protests, too?

              • @PunnyName
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                Oh, so the oppressed aren’t allowed to dismantle their oppressors? They must rise above and be civil? They are the ones that must be kind and courteous to those who would subjugate them further?

                What kind of bootlicker are you?

          • Flying Squid
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            I’m a white guy from Indiana. And if Elon Musk was from Indiana and someone said, “a guy from Indiana made his app anti-black? Shocking.” I’d be like, “I know, right? This state is full of racist as fuck white people.” I wouldn’t be offended.

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              But he’s not from Indiana though. The point I’m trying to make is that the commenter posed an unfair stereotype which suggested that white South Africans are proclived to racism even though there are no facts to support that argument. There is however evidence to suggest that Indianans or Idahoans or whatever other white inhabitants of famously racist US states are proclived to racism.

              Do you see my point?

              • Flying Squid
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                You’re right, he’s from an even more racist place. So I’m not sure why you think that’s an unfair stereotype when it is a fair one for a U.S. state that never had apartheid or slavery.

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    every day it gets more incredible to me that people are so fucking addicted to fake validation and fake likes from fake friends that they still use fucking twitter

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      Yeah! I like my fake validation and fake likes from anonymous friends over here on lemmy. Fake friends are overrated.

      • The Quuuuuill
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        the secret is i don’t think anyone on lemmy is my friend. i find everyone here frustrating and annoying! the system works!

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            Damn,… Ruffalo looks young in this picture… then I realize, he was and we all got fucking old. This was 13 years ago!!!

                • @Hawke
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                  Bullshit! 1995 was 4 years ago. 2004 was last year.

        • @bitjunkie
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          You say that like Twitter isn’t also full of self-important asshats

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        There’s a pretty big difference between drinking mild poisons at a Nazi bar and a local bar. Zoomed out, sure, drinking alcohol at all can be considered pretty dubious, but the difference between the two scenarios remains.

        edit: replace what autocorrect put as “consistent” to “considered”

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    It’s no secret that Apartheid Leon is trying to make everything back to the way it was in South Africa when he was a kid.

    I’m sure he already has a very nostalgic flag picked out when the name changes to The United States of X.

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    The weirdest thing here to me is that people call twitter an app. Not a site/community/whatever.

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        And boomers and relatively old generations.

        I have older folks don’t really get what a website is, and family kids that don’t either.

        Theres a narrow demographic that (as a whole) experienced the “old” internet outside of siloes and apps.