“It’s funny how people will believe in Newton’s laws of motion but still think the Force from Star Wars is mythical nonsense.”
But the Force is Mass times Acceleration!
Midichlorians are the powerhouse of the Force.
No, it’s the Force so it has to be the Mass times the Acceleration.
No it can’t be then The Force will be equal to The²(Mass times Acceleration)
Its either The mass times acceleration or mass times the acceleration
Where we’re going we don’t need commutative multiplication.
Doc, you can’t just put cocaine in the frunk of a CyberTruck and call it a DeLorean!
You forgot the Lorenz factor. The Falcon flies FTL. That’s where the midichlorians fit in.
the Mass times the Acceleration will equal the2 Force.
Missa times acceleration
fuck me, you got me good I’m mad I laughed as long as I did
I do believe gorilla piss exists.
I do not believe drinking gorilla piss would grant you gorilla strength (citation needed).
well yeah, obviously! You have to dilute it 1000 times for it to have any effect.
well you eyedrop it into your butthole and then expose your butthole to the sun so the positive solar energy modifies it primally because we’re all made of starlight and that’s just how it works
This is why nudist colonies are so vibrant. Easy as.
Dicks out for Harambe. 😔
i think i’m gonna need a demonstration kautau
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Not with that attitude.
No, no, no, no. You have to sacrifice a goat by dropping it into a volcano and make sure to drink the piss while the goat is still falling. It works, trust me.
Where would we find the citation you say is needed, for what you do not believe?
“believe in wi-fi”
I peraonally belief in a really thin cable, but big tech is trying to tell us its waves and stuff. But you have your opinion, I have mine. Nobody can be sure wich one is really true.
It’s actually a really REALLY fat cable. We spend our entire time inside it.
data goes in, data goes out. you can’t explain that.
If you don’t believe wi-fi exists, you’d be a fool.
i don’t believe in wifi, just like i don’t believe in trees. i know they’re there. that requires no belief.
The belief would be that your senses aren’t being actively deceived. Also, that you’re not a Boltzmann brain hallucinating in the void.
I personally believe all the axioms of science apply. It’s still fun to poke at them.
the atheist says “i will not believe”. the agnostic says “i can not believe”. one is as dogmatic as the beliefs they purport to refute, the other lacks the capacity for dogma, as belief for them is simply not possible.
Belief in a null is a lot more reasonable than belief in something so powerful it can pretend to be a null.
Belief that I am not in a Truman show like environment is a lot more reasonable (without evidence) than belief that I am in a Truman show, and they are doing a perfect job.
That doesn’t mean I don’t try disproving the null hypothesis.
I don’t think reasonable is even it for me, it’s just a helpful assumption.
If they are doing a perfect job at a Truman show type situation, there’s nothing you can do, so you might as well assume they’re not and play your role.
It’s more reasonable via Occam’s razor (more complexity is less reasonable, when everything else is equal). However it is still just a belief axiom. You have to assume 1 holds.
If you believe in pragmatism, that’s just semantics. A statement is reasonable or valid to the extent that it is useful.
a hypothesis based on established facts is no longer belief but extrapolation.
It’s an assumption, not an extrapolation. Assumptions, without evidence are beliefs.
We assume several unprovable axioms to allow science to function. A lot of work has also been done to collapse them down to the core minimum. What is left is still built on belief.
The fact that the results are useful back validates those beliefs. It doesn’t prove them however.
Honestly? Without evidence, they’re both equally probable. And believing, or refusing to believe in a god or something, are both faith of equal measure.
It’s just whether someone thinks their version is faith is more realistic than the opposite.
When the results are inseparable, then complexity is the only element, it doesn’t prove anything, but it does bias.
Also, most gods don’t fall into this debate. Most gods would be quite happy interfering. This is (in principle) distinguishable from the null. It was aimed primarily at the simulation hypothesis. A perfect simulation is indistinguishable from a base reality.
I’m willing to accept Atheism, ‘I do not believe in God’, as somewhat dogmatic, but as others have said, it’s the null hypothesis and they have Occam’s razor going for them. Pragmatically it is a useful stance in light of the societal harm religion does.
I am however unwilling to conflate Agnosticism with ‘I can not believe’, always been “I’m waiting for evidence one way or the other” to me, so perhaps the more scientific point of view.
It’s not 3 points, but 4.
Atheist==>Theist Agnostic==>gnostic
There are agnostic atheists and agnostic theists.
to me, those last two statements are pretty close in the grand scheme of things. it was allegorical anyway, since we weren’t really talking about god.
if there is no proof one way or the other, the pragmatic stance is to be neutral. if one side is more theoretically sound, the pragmatic stance is to assume that’s the correct side while still being open to the other. only when there’s proof of one side can you dismuss the other. none of those steps require “belief”, i.e. unfounded assumptions.
as an aside, personally i feel like religion is one of those issues where there is proof.
No, the pragmatic stance is to pick the side that is more helpful and useful. That may or may not be neutral.
No.
Oh, you’re a solipsist? You believe reality is an illusion and trees don’t really exist? I’m somewhat similar, I’m an antirealist. I recognise that reality is an illusion, but I still choose to believe in it until it can be overthrown. If we teach enough people how to reshape their beliefs and perceptions, then we can decide for ourselves whether trees exist. But at present, I need to believe in trees in order to inhabit consensus reality and communicate efficiently with the people who live here. It’s cool that you don’t believe in trees, though!
no
I’m happier with non-belief, than squirming through the exercise of deciding what to believe and disbelieve under the unchecked presumption that we must believe something.
Even more so for the distinct “believing in” something.
I only believe in my own wifi. My wifi is the one true wifi.
They also seem to believe wi-fi “powers everything”? What a loon.
Introducing POW (power over wlan)! By broadcasting a constant small gamma wave, small electronic devices can use the latent energy to power electronic components.
Though I imagine he paid more attention to the cymatic cromulence.
Through the modial interaction of magnetoreluctance and capacitive diractance… https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag
Just if the Hulk comics were released sooner.
I think you’re probably joking, but this actually is a thing. e.g. https://scitechdaily.com/engineers-harvest-energy-from-wifi-signals-to-power-small-electronics/
Yaayyyy, constant gamma radiation!!!
Shout out to my broken coworker who brought his crystals in to work one day to fix our negative energy. After carefully placing each stone according to universal leylines of good vibes, extraordinarily pleased with himself, immediately saw me slice through a package and into my fingers. I needed eleven stitches.
That’s just how the magic stones remove the negative energy from your body, through bloodletting
It all makes sense now. The universe balanced my humors.
Negative energy can never be removed, only transferred. He obviously didn’t like you, the skeptic, so he transferred all the negative energy into you from your other co-workers. /s
Aw, but I supported him. Magic is stupid but I like cool rocks.
Crystals do fix negative energy in a very simple way ! Feeling negative ? Just look at a crystal, crystals are pretty. Now you feel less negative, ta-dah !
I have multiple salt lamps for this reason. The magic of being a very pretty glowing crystal works wonders on me when I feel down x)
I absolutely believe in energy, frequency, and vibration. My wifi vibrates at a frequency of 2.4 and 5 GHz and in order to do that it needs to use energy.
Like, I’m down with hippie woo energy work, it’s really useful meditation. I use it to keep my anxiety under control. But your religion can’t cure diseases, it can only provide comfort
Meditation is awesome and useful. But it doesn’t need to be mystical and magical to be great, and I wish more people realized that.
God has not once healed an amputee. What does he have against them?
No longer made in his image?
jealousy that we can keep rocking our body image after losing part of it.
That’s how I feel about astrology. A horoscope is just a prompt for self reflection. But it’s fun when something feels woo woo or predictive or relatable because… its fun, idk. Its spooOoOoOoKy, it’s fun, it’s cute. Star charts are a skill you have to learn, it’s a hobby, it makes your brain work.
yup. i like tarot. it gives me a prompt from which to examine my own thoughts.
Well that begs the question though, why do some people find it fun and cute? Because they want to believe there’s a lazy easy way to figure things out without doing the hard work of the scientific process.
From that perspective i find astrology to be harmful and dangerous, although unfortunately ive had no success convincing anyone of that. I suppose some humans just like harmful and dangerous things and perhaps evolutionarily our species evolved to have a large number of those people.
The irony of finding two other woo-tolerant Lemmites in this comm.
Once I learned that astrology points to themes of influence on a time frame, it made a lot more sense. Taking it literally and thinking everything is confirmation bias is how people dismiss it. There’s more than a few people that have correctly nailed a lot of big events, it’s more about technique it seems. Nick Dagen Best published a book I think in 2013 or 2016 that is hitting hard right now - totally called Trump 2 and stuck to his guns on that.
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I like maps. I like puzzles. Astrology’s both.
First got intrigued when in my ignorant militant atheism dogma phase, and someone managed to discern my sun sign, just by my appearance and behaviours. I have since gone on to do the same to others, typically with as much world-view-changing astonishment in them as I experienced.
Can’t be bunk if that can be done.
The observable profiling reality of it, does open minds to wondering about what’s the astrological weather like.
To put on my obnoxious skeptic hat, it sounds like you are analyzing how the historical conditions of people’s upbringing affects each generations’ behaviors and mannerisms. Just, with an astrological chart rather than with a calendar.
it sounds like you are analyzing how the historical conditions of people’s upbringing affects each generations’ behaviors and mannerisms.
I do not know how it sounds like that to you. Seems a strong non sequitur. Maybe I’m missing something. Care to elaborate how you made this leap?
People who grew up around the same time and geography have the same historical pressures on what behaviors they learn. Obviously outcome varies a lot individual to individual, but it creates broad trends among large groups. Sorting chronologically brings those trends to the forefront.
Maybe can cure some diseases.
Even just via the comfort provided. Comfort enough, to get into a parasympathetic dominant mode long enough for the body to heal itself.
I kinda don’t believe in Energy, in the sense that I find it a useful conserved quantity to calculate stuff. Energy, or other physical quantities like fields “existing” though, is a philosophical question
Meditation has a lot of science behind it, it’s not a religious thing, at least not any more so than reading and writing is a religious thing.
Alopatic medicine cures some stuff but what does most is treat symptoms cause what it wants is to make money not to cure disease, I’m quite sure companies making billions off insuline and chemotherapy aren’t going to even bother trying to cure something they are profiting off, in fact is much probable that they actively try to sabotage research that could end their golden goose disease treatments…
Allopathic?
You can map out the inside of a building and figure out where objects are, and when and where movement occurs, with WiFi.
You cannot do this with magic woo woo nonsense that equivocates and conflates terms across different domain specific meanings, and then attempts to build a world view out of confused, meaningless/contradictory gibberish.
I can’t say I tune with your vibes, but I am grooving to your aura.
Must be a Pisces. Classic Pisces vibes lol
fuck. pisceses always make me want sushi.
my piceses, my piceses!
goblin monches on raw wriggling fish
I still ain’t got no sushi dammit. I blame past me. They were, well, occupied by board games.
No sushi and no garlic coffee
DAMMIT i swear on my not so dead mother’s grave I keep remembering at 230 and if I have too late, you know?
Batman taught me this.
I… am not entirely certain whether or not the tech actually existed, when the Dark Night came out, to build the hyper spy system…
But it definitely exists now, to at least some extent.
Fortunately,
the AntichristPeter Thiel is probably more or less in charge of it, so, all good!
Some of the more storied and out there reports of what happened with the remote viewing program in the 80s and 90s pretty much get close to this.
You’ve obviously never been ghost hunting.
I mean, I have certainly wandered through many an abandonded, functionally cursed place when I was homeless for about 2 years.
And I could have just brought a portable radio and randomly dialed through FM/AM stations, pausing for a few second on something stable, then going back to static.
… but I didn’t need a radio to see the echoes of what had happened at the places I’d been.
‘Environmental Storytelling’ isn’t just a thing in video games.
Heard some conspiracy folks mention negative frequencies from 5G and the like. It’s just a phase I guess…
Negative frequency is a concept in signal processing, and many other domains.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_frequency
Phase could be the thing, beats me, it’s been a while. Negative resistance is also another one of those concepts that pop up now and then, specifically negative differential resistance.
I mean, the signs* are right there in the article
*something something sines
Oh god, it’s been a long time since I took Vibrations and Waves, but I still remember filling notebook after notebook with Fourier transform equations.
They aren’t “powering everything”. JFC go lick a wall outlet, that’s what powers many things. WiFi is information, and indeed, they try to make it use less and less power.
It could power stuff. Tesla was working on it, and there have been a few small companies over the years that have done it.
Just turns out that it’s not very practical compared to a wall socket.
You guys, energy, frequency and vibration are all obviously fake. Nobody has ever observed vibration in real life. Go on and try measuring one of those “frequencies”, I’ll wait. Where are you even supposed to find those? “A faucet dripping”? “Your literal heartbeat”? Don’t make me laugh!
Tuning forks are big fake
have you tried to find a tuning fork lately? they’re little fake now. i just got an application across my desk asking for a grant for money to put tuning forks in weird places because there’s not enough woo and i’m gonna reject it because it’s a good idea and i want to do it.
Big Tuning Fork are lying to us!
Some of them are also small fake
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I’ll show you some nice vibrations ;-)
NO, put down the taser!
So many layers to unpack here.
Specifically OSI layers 1 and 2!
Dammit.
Bravo.
Trying to legitimize bullshit by using big words out of context and meaning
if someone is trying to “convert” you to esoteric/occult beliefs, then that person has no idea what they’re talking about
I only saw the top part of the picture at first, and I was very confused: “Why is this in Science Memes?”
I don’t need to believe in Wi-Fi I just need to see that my phone is connected to the internet. The existence of Wi-Fi can be inferred by me having access to YouTube.
