PSA: before the advent of organized labor, workers would often negotiate with tactics such as “be fair to us, or we’ll break your kneecaps and burn your fucking factory down”.
And then the factory owners got organized, got the police unionized, and we can’t do this anymore.
There are still more of us than there are of them
I hope the management gets wrongful death suits launched against them
Civil suits? They belong in prison.
Yeah but they’ll hide behind their corporation so there’s no “person” to throw in prison.
Corporations aren’t people no matter what the supreme court says
Charge the manager with a separate count of murder for every employee that died due to their orders.
In old Japan, they would have made a bunch of management chop their finger off or commit seppuku.
Im not suggesting that. I’m just saying.
I’m suggesting it.
Murder wouldnt stick, have to prove intent.
Negligent Homicide or Criminal Negligence on the other hand…
TN has a strong felony murder statute. You dont need to prove intent, you just need to prove they were perpetrating a related violent felony.
I’m not a lawyer but in this case it seems like management have probably met the criteria for felony theft or kidnapping. Any properly motivated DA could then add a felony murder charge for each death.
That’s a question for the jury. Charge the manager with all and let the jury decide.
It doesnt meet the criteria for murder.
Section 1751(a) of Title 18 incorporates by reference 18 U.S.C. §§ 1111 and 1112. 18 U.S.C. § 1111 defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice, and divides it into two degrees. Murder in the first degree is punishable by death.
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Man if it’s a state of emergency let the mgr sink with the ship.
It so sad, they probably complied because they needed their jobs.
Well on the bright side at least now they don’t? I hope their families sue the shit out of the company and the manager.
I worked at a major destination-store focused on fishing and hunting products.
We had a hurricane hitting and the manager on duty made it clear that anyone going home to help out their families would be fired. Then when he got the call that water was rising near his house, he took off.
I’ve never hated a manager more than in that moment. When I was in management later, I made sure that I took all the shitty holiday shifts so my staff didn’t have to work until 10pm on Christmas Eve and then be back in the building changing prices for the after-Christmas sale at 2am on the 26th.
The good ol rules for me not for thee shenanigans
Oh no, the store burned down just after you left! What a shame!
Wait till you read Impact Plastics’ public statement…
So they were only dismissed when the plant lost power and the workers were of no use to the company
And very literally after it was too late to safely leave.
Which means, by definition, they were not dismissed while they could safely leave.
“After the parking lot filled with water and the power went out, they were dismissed. For some reason they hung around??? It’s peculiar that they chose to stay in a building after they were dismissed into the floodwaters.”
The company location
Didn’t the triangle waistshirt fire happen because the employers were fucking assholes and locked the fire escapes? This is like that, but with water instead of fire.
I hope their productivity wasn’t impeded by this minor inconvenience. I’d hate it if their dying led to their employer making marginally less money. So rude of them.
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Heh? I don’t get it. What are you trying to say here? Where do you think government mo ey to invest in flood protections come from? Taxes…?
I believe it’s a parody of the people that will gab any nonsense to rail against taxes.
Besides, from the income of putting prisoners to work obviously.
Non-specific outrage. What a way to communicate
The worst part is the Trump appointed SCOTUS basically made this legal to do.
EDIT: This comment of mine was misleading and unfair. Neil Gorsuch was not on the SCOTUS when he decided a truck driver forfeit his job without means of legal recourse by choosing to abandon his trailer and prevent death from Hypothermia.
Man if I’m moving my parked car to avoid rising waters, I’m not re parking. I’m out of there.
I’m sure most people did the same thing.
The ones who were too loyal to the company died.
In the article and the after statement from the company it seems that a lot of employees left earlier but the ones that stayed were non native English speaking immigrants that paid with their lives to be cheap labor and are being represented by a refugee and immigration group in the area for their deaths.
So not loyal but those trapped to the company that held power over them. As you would expect of people that need the job to stay and allows for the company to have absolute power over their workers like they want.
but those trapped to the company that held power over them.
So slaves with extra steps.
Yeah. I mean people that are excellent workers cause they are cheap. Can be told to pay their own way to training themselves and will do it because they are desperate. Able to be deported to a country where they won’t have have any legal discourse for any reason so they won’t complain and take what they can get, or else lose their money, the cost of paying to get here and potentially their family.
So, yeah I mean. No wonder anyone with a business loves them.
Meanwhile, at my workplace, we had to evacuate over the possibility of roads flooding in a tropical storm.
I thought this kind of nonsense was a thing of the past.
Honestly, in the course of our species living in servitude to a few thousand sociopaths who’ve used their capital/power to convince us that meaningless productivity for toxic economic metasisis is “the only way forward” and the meaning of life, I’ve come to realize their terraforming of our only habitat against our physically fragile species in their blind, reckless pursuit of ever moar is a purely accidental mercy.
Extinction is far preferable to generation after generation sacrificing themselves from cradle to grave solely to enrich our modern pharoahs of avarice and their nepo progeny without end. Sometimes extinct is better.
You’re free to disagree, of course, but better to see the silver lining in what our species is quite literally dead set to do and well into accomplishing. Im just glad greed caused climate change won’t permit this torturous, exploitative civilization to continue for more than another half century or so.
There are some studies that say the Sahara desert is actually the result of mass farming goats in the area that removed so much of the vegetation it started a cascading effect of desertification.
We have a long history of fucking up the planet for reasons that are silly in hindsight that leaves scars that literally affect the future of the planet. Unfortunately I don’t think there will ever be a swift and merciful end but one that drags out so don’t go praising the suffering to come yet.
Do employers not have a duty of care to their employees over there?
Or the word “twice”?
Archive link to the story. There should be some consequences to the management who didn’t allow them to leave when the flash flood warning was issued.
There will be about the same consequence as the Amazon warehouse that wouldn’t let their employees leave during a tornado. Nothing.
There absolutely were consequences. A longer-than-it-should-have-taken investigation was done from which they discovered that killing your employees is very naughty and were told that they shouldn’t do that anymore. In return, Amazon made a very sincere “whoopsie-doodle 👉👈, I sowwy. But we didn’t directly kill these production assets, so no harm no foul.”
That matter isn’t settled yet but my guess is that Amazon will ultimately settle out of court for a lot of money. With that said a Tornado is a different kettle of fish than a flood. The warning time for a tornado is usually measured in bare minutes, sometimes when you’re lucky you get 20 minutes and even then where exactly are you going to go?
Floods like this one though had HOURS of warning and there’s positively no reason for employees to get caught like this. There was more than enough time for these folks to get a known safe place. It’s despicable.
Hold up, those plastics aren’t gonna do whatever that place does by themselves. The owner probably only has one or two vacation homes, should he or she do without? He pulled himself up by his bootstraps, illegal immigrants, gas stoves, Elon musk is a genius, aaaand I’m spent
There should be some consequences to the management who
didn’t allow them to leavedidn’t send them the fuck home immediately.I work in a factory that sits on a flood plane. It’s happened more than once that by the time a decision is made to cut people loose, it’s already difficult to leave the area. Often by the time a flash flood warning is issued there are only a few minutes of clear roadway left.
It’s entirely possible that a similar situation happened here, that the safest place for those people to be was in that building, that there was no way out and they would have been swept down stream regardless.even if that’s the case, this company should be held liable for sitting on their hands and keeping people at work through a storm where the risk of flooding was so great. That decision should have been made much sooner. If there was a job to come back to you can always post them for a Saturday and wouldn’t have to pay overtime until they actually hit 40 hours.
I’m so fucking fed up with the false urgency in these places. This company made high density plastic parts. Literally nothing they were making is life or death. Nothing they were making couldn’t wait another day. No customers were going to bail because the factory they needed their parts from got hit by a fucking hurricane.
But everyone, every fucking person in leadership, is constantly pressured to squeeze out more units, more production. Keep people working as long as possible, because every second they’re not making a product is a second the company is losing money. And because now every fucking company has jumped on to the lean manufacturing model, they are constantly, perpetually, chronicly behind. The second an order comes in it’s already too late and we need those units NOW. no lead time, no back orders. So stay at your machine because the boss man needs another Lexus.
Fucking burn it down
Why? They were immigrants so they could be disposable labor right?
One of the employees who died, Bertha Mendoza, 56, fell off the truck and vanished into the flood, according to Ingram and a representative from Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition.
Same with the fucking bridge that got destroyed in
DelawareBaltimore and every factory disaster. Immigrants doing the labor that die for our carelessness, and easy to replace.Do you mean the bridge in baltimore? We lost 6 immigrants on that one, all of them with families. It’s heartbreaking.
I did. But yeah every time I read an article about some worker dying these days I swear it mentions they were immigrants or are being represented by an immigrant group because they literally didn’t have the legal protections themselves.
I’m so tired of it. And hearing that people that died due to negligence of any origin doesn’t make me feel great but this is telling of who is considered disposable labor.
If we can’t treat people like humans we don’t deserve to be relying on their labor.
