Things didn’t end well for the last guy…

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    Or just don’t show up to work, and start looking for another job.

    What they gonna do? Shoot you for “being sick and unable to report to work”?

    Message for Government Employees: If you work a government job, DON’T GO TO WORK WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN. Fuck that BS, don’t let the government treat you like a slave. Calling out from work is not a crime (even if it is, fuck them anyways).

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      All TSA agents should strike at the same time those days, wearing green hats and fake mustaches

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        Nothing would change, the TSA does nothing but harass lawful citizens.

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          Yeah lol, people would probably have a great travel experience and want to make it permanent. Strikes only work if your job is important to someone, otherwise they work against you

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            I’m gonna guess that the airports will shut down in the US if TSA is not available. They’re not just gonna let people through without any security in place.

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              If the choice is profits or security for customers…

              But there’s probably some more systems that prevent it

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              They let people through unscreened on holidays. I let them buy me out of my ticket on a long weekend once and flying the next day was so nice. A few dozen of us were just waved past security and right to the gate. Just had to show we had a boarding pass. This was at a big Texas airport too.

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            They are legally not allowed to strike. They would be fired immediately for dereliction of their position. It’s part of the negotiation when they take a federal job.

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              If the government is going to be derelect in its duty to pay its workers, then workers can do the same to their positions.

              Though I would be looking for another job and quit without notice when one is found in this case. Fuck Musk. No one voted for his ass.

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      Have you met them? They’re basically otherwise unemployable.

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        Meh, I’m sure their local police force, who are toally well trained and organized and not filled with overweight people, would gladly accept them, just look at what the average cop looks like. These TSA agents will fit right in.

        (Not that I want there to be more cops, but sadly thats where these people will end up. 🤷‍♂️)

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            I was imagining that their point was that police officers are supposed to be fit.

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        I have a friend who is a TSA agent and he’s a lovely and intelligent person. He took the job because it was the best thing available to him and federal jobs (usually) come with very good benefits and health coverage. He hadn’t seen a doctor for about 6 years before he got the job because his insurance and PTO was so terrible at his last job.

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          Yeah, there’s always some exception. Hope your friend is doing well.

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      So far they’ve gotten paid every time, just late.

      So far…

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        If my job ever skips a check I’m not coming back until I get it. Fuck that. Everyone not getting paid because of this should stay home and let chaos happen. Cause some real consequences to Musk and the rest of them.

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      Go to work and do nothing but look for a new job on your phone. What are they gonna do, not pay you anymore?

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    And they ripped out funding for pediatric cancer research. $250 million… or around 0.05% of president Musk’s net worth. Why do repubs hate kids with cancer?

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      Because they’re not profitable.

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      Also 900 million will not be going to North Carolina hurricane relief.

      Cold heartless bastards

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        Assuming I did my math correctly these two things would have been a combined total of .002% of the federal budget.

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          Yeah, those people living in the (checks notes) mountains in (checks notes again) inland North Carolina knew the risks of not getting Hurricane insurance!

        • @Avatar_of_Self
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          Why can’t the government take care of it’s people instead of making them rely on private insurance? It’s the government. They should be doing things like taking care of their citizens during times of crisis.

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      They want to strip away everything that reduces infant mortality, so that people start having more kids again since so many of them will die young.

      Then later they give it back, and since they already took away the right to abortion… Boom, population explosion and a bunch of poor kids are born to later be exploited in factories and wars.

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        • @Brainsploosh
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          If you don’t want to have an abortion, no one’s ever been forcing you.

          Why you think it’s appropriate to force others is weird.

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              Nah, you don’t really believe that.

              You already know that in an abortion, no one is typically killing the fetus (which btw is less of a human than a chicken egg is human), they’re just removing it from the body it’s parasiting off of. Not the mother’s fault it can’t survive, and I’m pretty sure you’re for curing cancer or tape worm which also contain more human dna than a fetus does.

              Besides, in many cases the fetus is already dead or terminal anyway.

              And even if this was codified under law as murder, it wouldn’t be the mother doing it, but a licensed professional, much like police, soldiers or wardens.

              Thats’s a lot of mental gymnastics to insert yourself into someone’s health care and sex life. That’s kind of weird…

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                Republicans have spread this myth that women use abortion like birth control. Just like the myth of the black welfare Queen, spitting out kids just to draw a check. It’s all bullshit and they know it, they just hate poor people.

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                tape worm which also contain more human dna than a fetus does.

                Not that im disagreeing with your overall argument, but a fetus has 100% human dna… otherwise it wouldnt develop into a human lol

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                  A fetus does indeed have 100% human DNA, but a tape worm has about 70% human DNA.

                  An 8 week fetus is about 20 g, an 8 week tape worm can become up to 30 ft, weighing several pounds. 70 % of a pound is more than 20 g.

                  And with the new slave mother laws, the fetus isn’t more than a handful of grams at the cut off date, making it all the more poignant.

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          It’s a fetus, not a child.

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            • @[email protected]
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              Okay, I don’t agree with the emotional concept that a fetus is a person innately, but I can at least understand where that type of thinking comes from. Claiming it’s a fully-developed human is just demonstrably wrong. You’re entitled to your opinion, but feelings aren’t facts. I sincerely hope this is a sad attempt at trolling.

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                • @[email protected]
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                  Claims science, states no actual science, strawmans up an example that isn’t related to the original in any way. claims gaslighting with no actual reference to gaslighting behavior.

                  No slurs or personal attacks, but i feel like you’re going for the subtle approach so you probably don’t need those right now.

                  Hmm, so this is up there, i feel like it’s missing something though, can’t quite place what, but i’ll keep an eye on the replies in case i spot it.

                  Anyway, 8/10 shitpost, good job, no notes.


                  While i have you, it sounds like you are a person familiar with how science works and will give me an actual answer rather than deflect.

                  What is the scientific definition of “parasite”?

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                  What is your solution for fetal anomalies that will inevitably lead to stillbirth or death in the first few hours of life? What is your solution for pregnancy abnormalities that put the life of the mother at serious risk? What is your solution for women who are desperately trying to escape monstrously abusive relationships that got pregnant from marital rape or coercion?

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                  I’m trying so hard not to reply to this nonsense…

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                  Do you believe people who are unresponsive and comatose for a long period should be kept alive despite the families wishes?

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              A fetus is objectively not fully formed. What do you think its doing in the womb for all those months, just hanging out? When abortions happen its just a bundle of cells that cant think, breathe, or live on its own.

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                • @[email protected]
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                  Yeah a bunch of cells which have FULLY FORMED into a person. Something a fetus has in no way done.

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                  A coma involves brain activity in a highly developed nervous system, often with a high chance of recovery.

                  A fetus has a tiny, undeveloped nervous system, with no higher brain functions.

                  These are not at all equivalent. One is a person, and the other is not.

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                  Cancer

                  Cancer is a bunch of cells. By your logic it is immoral to treat cancer. Cancer has human DNA. Cancer can also live independent of the human that spawned it.

                  We should stop killing cancer too.

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              A tiny cluster of cells is not a “fully developed human”

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              Then how come they can’t survive without leeching off a host? 80% of pregnancies spontaneously end in miscarriage. That doesn’t sound viable or fully developed to me. If it could survive outside the womb, you’d have a point. But it can’t, so you don’t.

              You know who was actually fully-developed? All the women who have died due to pregnancy complications thanks to draconic laws that take away their rights over their own bodies. I’ll hold you responsible for murdering them.

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                You clearly don’t know biology do you & are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ? BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)

                • American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. (2020)
                • National Center for Health Statistics. (1999). Trends in Pregnancies and Pregnancy Rates.
                • JAMA Network. (2020)

                I hold you responsible for the billions of deaths of unborn children, because of your stupidity & selfishness & inhumanity

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                  BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)

                  Sure, if you only measure after 6 weeks.

                  For women of reproductive age, losses between implantation and clinical recognition are approximately 10–25%. Loss from implantation to birth is approximately one third [39, 46, 48, 49].

                  A recent re-analysis [39] of data from three studies [46, 48, 49] concluded that, in normal healthy women, 10–40% is a plausible range for pre-implantation embryo loss and overall pregnancy loss from fertilisation to birth is approximately 40–60%.

                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5443340/

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                  You clearly don’t know biology do you

                  Says the person claiming a fetus is a fully developed human.

                  are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ?

                  Millions of people live in the jungles of the world. How many fetuses live outside wombs? Oh right, none. Because there’s a difference between having the skills to survive in the jungle, and being a fully developed human capable of independent biological survival.

                  Have you ensured that every single one of your gametes resulted in a child? Then you’re a genocidal hypocrite.

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              No. A fully developed human would be post-pubescent. Until then you are either a fetus incapable of living outside your mother’s body, or a baby capable of independent life with some sort of care.

              Fetuses are NOT babies. Stop being obtuse.

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          I assume you’ve adopted multiple unwanted children in the foster system including severely disabled ones, right?

          Since you think that “unborn children” shouldn’t be “killed,” you’ve got to be a major part of the solution.

          Tell me about your severely disabled kids you adopted from the foster system.

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            • @LePoisson
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              Oh fuck right off with that bullshit. Abortions are a medical procedure. Women have died because they can’t get them. Or should we just let fetuses that die in utero rot inside the womb and kill the poor woman who lost her baby through no fault of her own?

              That’s just one example off the top of my head.

              Nobody wants to or is killing children. That’s some hyperbolic bullshit.

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                I just went through about 3 pages of their comment history.

                Therein lies a tale.

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              There are no orphanages in the U.S.

              Also, please name the 100% effective contraceptive.

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                  Fair, but I would suggest that married couples who want more than one child should be allowed to choose to have as much sex as they want until they’re ready to have that next child. Of course, anti-abortion crusaders never think about the fact that it isn’t just those dirty sluts getting abortions. Married people have sex too.

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          Is it too late to abort you? Because you blatantly fail at having a basic grasp on reality.

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      Whoa whoa whoa you can’t go around funding kids healthcare. Then they are gonna become adult voters who expect more free healthcare.

      You want kids who get to adulthood on the skin of their teeth, or kids who don’t get to adulthood at all. There’s no in-between.

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      • @WhatYouNeed
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        You know what everyone hates more? A grown adult behaving like a kid.

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            I don’t want nor will ever have kids, so please take it to heart when I say: You are behaving like an immature toddler.

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            For the double murder point, the fetus is classified as a potential human.

            Why can’t I get life insurance on a fetus?

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    Just a reminder that Elon Musk is not from the United States.

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      …which is why he had to buy a president instead of buy the presidency.

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      He’s legally a US citizen by way of his mother.

      Nevermind how much “god damn those evil foreigners are at it again” rhetoric makes me gag. Peter Thiel and Marc Andressen are fully American and they suck just as hard. If anything, the problem isn’t Elon, its Stanford University and the endless line of factory produced insane far-right techbro degenerates that it rolls out which gave us our modern hellscape.

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      Fuck the TSA, but the people who work there because it is a paying job deserve stable employment like the rest of us. They don’t make the decisions.

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        Does this goes for the police as well?

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          When they have enough oversight that the “thin blue line” is no longer a thing.

          Everyone should know the Chris Dorner story.

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          Depends how responsible you think the system is for their behavior and if you feel people deserve a second chance.

          I think ACAB, but I believe their bad behavior is mostly due to systemic pressures.

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        But most of the time you can choose your job… Of course working for the TSA might be more comfortable, but what you do with your life is not usually forced.

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          Yes, you can choose your job, but it is a pretty big pain in the butt to do so. I don’t feel like the “you can just get a better job” argument is a strong one in general.

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      People being forced to work without pay is slavery. No one deserves to be a slave, even if they’re normally paid to do something and that something is not useful.

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        It’s sad that this is apparently a unique take. Sure, “fuck giant corporations”, I agree. But pay the fucking workers who literally do everything.

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          Nobody is forcing them to take security theater jobs oppressing other people. Even the workers can get fucked imo.

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            Work is work. They’re patting down people and scanning x-ray screens. If you disagree with the TSA, vote to abolish it. Until then, requiring that department to work without pay only affects the Working Class.

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              I don’t get to make the decision either way. But I know that they couldn’t be out there humiliating disabled people if working class people refused to take those jobs.

              Just because they’re poor fucks like the rest of us doesn’t mean they aren’t pieces of shit, just like the police.

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            Because it’s so easy to find a job.

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              I guess if all you do is worship at the altar of the dollar bill and have no morals then this is a logical argument to make.

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                Or, you know, have children that rely on you.

                But yeah, fuck them. Let them eat cake. They’ll be fine.

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                  You’re acting like it’s the only job in the world. Maybe don’t have kids if the only way you can put food on the table is by ruining air travel for 100% of people?

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    TSA agents are ineffectual on the best of days, but without pay? Between that and the amazing production quality at Boeing I’m quite content to not fly anywhere.

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    Sorry, but unemployed TSA should get no sympathy. In fact, if you want to kill government programs, it should be at the front of the line. Pork barrel security theater bullshit.

    Fuck the TSA and the idiots on power trips working for them.

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      It’s not the employees’ fault, saying they should get no sympathy is a dick move.

      That aside, I agree the TSA is a great example of the kind of spending that needs cut and the department dissolved.

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        Have you seen the kind of people these kinds of jobs attracts? We aren’t talking about Starbucks workers, we are mostly talking about people that get off on power trips.

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          Yeah I was going to say this. Just because their pay is shit, does not make TSA employees nice people.

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          You don’t exactly work together to keep those psychos out dontcha

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      For real. Like Fox News pundits, they’re being paid to not understand the consequences of their own work. They’re a drain on tax funds performing ineffective security theater at the cost of convenience, privacy, and sometimes the flights of ordinary people. If you’re TSA, you should consider something else that would be of greater social benefit.

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      How about their kids? Should they get sympathy? Because these people won’t be able to feed them.

      Government shutdowns affect far more than just the employees, and in this case those employees are literally being used as slaves. Maybe that deserves sympathy too… unless you think “idiots on power trips” deserve to be enslaved. I don’t think anyone does personally.

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        Do you have that same attitude towards ICE agents kids?

        People lose their jobs all the time and still feed their kids. A government shutdown is a good thing.

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          Yes, I do. Because people deserve to be paid. Not paying someone and forcing them to work has a name. Slavery.

          If you get hired for a job, even if it’s an immoral job, you deserve to be paid. People who work at payday loan places, people who work for TurboTax, people who work on oil rigs, people who work on factory farms and slaughterhouses all deserve to be paid and children do not deserve to suffer because politicians can’t get their shit together.

          A government shutdown is in no way a good thing just because certain government departments you personally don’t like will not pay their employees. There’s a lot of other people who are helpful that also will not be getting paid.

          Or do you think it’s a good thing to not have things like air traffic controllers and food inspectors? If so, you’re a libertarian and you will be very unhappy with Trump’s dictatorship.

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      It may be wrong, but here I’m hoping someone starts a paparazzi site where people anonymously tip off the location of these celebrities and keep track of where they are all the time.

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        They would shut anything down. I mean Elon even shut down open source reporting of celebrity jet flights.

        Meanwhile he would have no problem attaching a bomb collar around everyone’s neck. One that he personally can use to blow them up and does just because he feels like it.

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      Possibly far less. Depends on how many missiles get launched.

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    President Musk flexing his muscles even before puppet inauguration.

    One thing I wondered is what would happen if Putin and Musk disagree at some point about what Trump is supposed to do? But the answer is actually easy: whoever strokes Trump’s ego better at the time gets their policy through. Trump lives in the moment.

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      I don’t know, I still think Putin has info on Trump that Trump really doesn’t want to be public for whatever reason. So I’m thinking he would defer to Putin.

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        I used to think that, but there’s nothing Trump could have done that the loony right wing public wouldn’t gleefully dismiss as not important. (Well, apart from a lewd orgy with trans Muslim Mexican immigrants, but I don’t think any of those exist, and Trump would just call it faked anyway.)

        Now I think that Putin just rings him up to tell him what a great president he is and all the world admires how strong a leader he is, not like those weak Democrats who (insert policy Putin wants dropped), no, Trump is a strong and courageous leader and everyone can tell how strong and virile he is because he supports policies like (insert policy that Putin wants implemented).

        I mean maybe there’s a video of Trump shouting “Yes, shove that big beautiful black dildo in me harder!”, but I don’t think it’s necessary at all. See how easy it was for the North Korean president to get Trump to completely change direction. He just sweet talked him for a bit. Trump is an absolute sucker for someone he perceives as strong telling him he’s great. American foreign policy is at the whim of any world leader who can make Trump feel proud of himself for a week.

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          Whether or not the public would dismiss it and whether or not he thinks they would dismiss it are two very different things.

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            Which does point towards some non-hetero sexcapade, because pretty much everything else he’s famous for already having done.

            I still think he’s pathetically easy to manipulate for dictators.

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          Putin probably gave him a few billion to buy him. It’s peanuts money for an oligarch. Putin could reveal the amount and banking details, how much was invested into the different building projects Trump is so proud of.

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          but there’s nothing Trump could have done that the loony right wing public wouldn’t gleefully dismiss as not important.

          Young boys. It’s the only thing I can think of that might sway enough of them.

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            They just wouldn’t believe it. They wouldn’t accept that it was real, and any investigation would either confirm that belief or be obviously political and corrupt.

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              “There’s a big secret that somebody knows that will totally sink Trump’s career at long last and if we can just find what it is and tell everyone else we’ll win” is a lie liberals have been feeding to one another for thirteen years running.

              We have him glad-handing Jeffery Epstein and nobody seems to fucking care. We have him on record paying off prostitutes and taking bribes from the Saudis and implying he’d like to fuck his daughter. We have videos of him saying insane shit about having sex on a yacht during a speech to the fucking Boy Scouts. We have him rambling incoherently about “Eating the Dogs and the Cats” in the middle of a national debate.

              But don’t worry, there’s something even deeper and weirder and crazier. And that’s going to make all the difference.

              And that’s why he’s friends with Vladimir Putin. It’s certainly not just that they’re both white nationalists who agree with each others’ politics.

          • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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            21 month ago

            Have you never heard of Nineteen Eighty Four? There is nothing that can sway Trump’ supporters. 2+2=5

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      what would happen if Putin and Musk disagree at some point

      Nothing significant. Musk is running on a purely American strain of right-wing revanchism. Trying to deflect all our problems onto Evil Foreign Man is a big part of why the country is as fucked as it is today. We simply cannot let ourselves believe that the fascist strain gripping our country by the taint is American born and bred. So every four years, Republicans accuse the Democrats of being Chinese and Democrats accuse the Republicans of being Russian, and then the parties do old fashioned American Protestant Capitalism to the country while we all writhe in torment, looking for someone else to blame.

  • @Opisek
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    Out of the loop, what do you mean SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT???

  • @FreakinSteve
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    How bout they just dont show up? The TSA is a fraudulent agency anyway. Pre-9/11 security worked just fine.

    • @[email protected]
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      And if someone is going to hijack a plane to pilot it into a building, i doubt their mission would depend on a large tube of toothpaste and a nail clipper

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        “Heh heh heh, finally, I can sneak enough explosive toothpaste into the plane!”

        That’s the terrorists right now, how do you feel now, huh? It’s not a joke. TSA is extremely serious. 😤

  • @ThePrimitive
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    We need to teach him to be scared of us.

      • @JcbAzPx
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        His personal cars or do you mean the cybertruck? Because if it’s the latter then it’s not quite as bulletproof as advertised.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      Good luck. He can afford a personal army to protect him.

        • Flying SquidOP
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          With military-grade weapons? I doubt it.

          • @sulgoth
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            With how loosy-goosy the US is with weapons purchasing? There’s a chance.

            • Flying SquidOP
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              There’s also a chance that Musk’s security forces will spray bullets into the crowd from sniper positions.

                • Flying SquidOP
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                  Sure it would. Just like all the other “if this happens, the guillotines will come out” events where that didn’t occur when it happened.

    • @Mango
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      Yeah him to hold still until the end of time.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      Because people need to eat.

      Also, some air travel is essential.

      Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?

      • @[email protected]
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        Lol the idea of a medical courier waiting in line at the TSA rummaging through their organ containers because they flagged it sus in the x-ray machine.

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          You do know that ‘also’ is a word used to separate two different points, right?

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            Yeah but implying that medical couriers are selling their payloads on a cannibal black market is juicer than a fat mans liver.

            With some fava beans.

            And a nice chianti.

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        They are only doing it in the first place because they need to eat

        Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?

        The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered settled in an emergency meeting because they have places they want to go

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              Yes, but private airports, or airstrips, exist and probably have little to no TSA involvement. Some guy nearby lands his helicopter in his back yard.

        • Flying SquidOP
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          You one comment ago:

          Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?

          You this comment:

          The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered

          Which is it? Does it make sense to shut down U.S. airports or is that something that wouldn’t happen?

          • @[email protected]
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            How are you confused on that

            If they were to announce airport shutdowns then the budget would be passed to prevent that

            • Flying SquidOP
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              You didn’t say announce a shutdown. If you meant announce it and not actually do it, you sure weren’t clear about that since you said it would make sense to do it.

  • @[email protected]
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    Ruining the holidays for a bunch of government employees, not just TSA. I am more worried about air traffic controllers, NASA, NOAA, FDA, the VA (yeah they suck, but a lot of people depend on them and making them work unpaid is definitely not going to improve anything), and thousands of other government employees that will go without pay. The longer it lasts, the worse it will be for the economy.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      Damn. Imagine just showing up to work knowing you won’t be paid, with a bunch of other coworkers who are in the exact same socio-economic hostage crisis.

      Gotta wonder if there’s some kind of organizational remedy. Like… a collection of workers who could all respond together as a single labor unit to demand a different set of policies on pain of withholding their labor until their demands are met.

        • @ZeffSyde
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          Like an ogre, they have layers.

      • @[email protected]
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        I am old enough to remember when Reagan used military and scabs to bust the air traffic controllers’ strike. Hopefully this time people won’t cross picket lines.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          There’s no picket lines, because there’s no organizing and no threat of a strike. Reagan did his work and Clinton/Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden made sure it stuck.

          More likely what we’re going to see isn’t a single unified organized effort, but a bunch of individuals just walking off the job or phoning it in because they’re too demoralized to continue doing these thankless jobs. Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit.

          • @[email protected]
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            Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated. Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it, cause they are about to have a serious illegal immigration problem.

            • @UnderpantsWeevil
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              Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated.

              Excited to see the biggest rug-pull in US history when that back half fails to materialize.

              Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it

              The Canadian far-right is such a fucking joke. They want to be American so badly. Far from building a wall, I suspect they’ll be the ones shoving open the gates if we ever get a President deranged enough to try an annexation.

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                  Two sides of the same coin. The distinction between the two is primarily whether you consider the information conveyed beneficial or nefarious.

                  Either way, Americans are already the most propagandized people on earth. You don’t need to send people to college to indoctrinate them. You’ve got consumer-grade mass media doing the job just fine.

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            Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit

            The big difference will be that those jobs can’t be replaced as easily. ATC had quasi-analogous people in the military, and the only real match there is the VA. The issue is the amount of military doctors/nurses working in the armed forces does not compare to the civilian side. For the rest? NASA/NOAA/FDA have one-if-not-none person that may be able to substitute in.

            With that thought, I’d be more than willing to place money on this being one of the thrusts of the idiotic doge. Why have national parks? Why care about food and drug quality? Healthcare for vets? Bahahaha, the money overlords care about their own supply, which they can ensure with their money. Everything there is focused solely on the peons, which have no meaning to the people pulling these strings.

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    Remember when the goverment was first shut down in a long time, if ever before, when Republicans thought it would be a good ratfucker move to harm Obama’s presidency, and it blew up in their faces, and our Country went from a AAAA rated borrower to a AAA borrower due to government disfunction? We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding. It pisses me off so much. Imagine getting paid a significant amount of tax payer money, a life long sipend, and better health care than most the county, and not even doing your job and letting the goverment shut down. At some point here the lawlessness is going to convince enough people that it seriously doesn’t matter anymore.

    • slazer2au
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      We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding

      What we do in Australia is of the government can’t pass a budget we dissolve the government and go for elections.
      Clearly the MP are not doing their jobs so make them run for their jobs again.

      • @[email protected]
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        That works in a parliamentary system, because the state and the government are two different things. In the U.S. system, they are functionally the same thing. We can’t dissolve the government, or we’d have to rebuild the entire state apparatus from the ground up.

    • @FreakinSteve
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      Why doesn’t the “no new wars!” gang cut military spending by 65-80%? Defense readiness doesn’t cost $800B/ year.

    • @nlgranger
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      Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding.

      This is exactly what happened a few days ago in France. While it’s not perfect, it’s still a whole lot better than a shutdown.