cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/23788061
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/170743
Canada saw what was happening in the US South and decided the they need a friend. Canada is the process of passing their own “Protecting Young Persons from Exposure to Pornography Act”.
I feel like if there was some type of course that would teach young people about sex and porn in a healthy manner. We could call it “sex education”. This would be far better use of tax payers money instead of knee jerk bans and overreaching privacy violations.
Ya see, up north, we believe in a lil thang called FREEDOM! 😎
Ahem, good Internet person. In the south, freedom is going STRONG. It is taking away jobs, revenue (ex:PorhHub), medication, rights, health, safety, life, and freedom. Er…ah…um…
Remember when conservatives complained about the nanny state?
Always just an excuse to get rid of the things they don’t like, such as social security.
They absolutely want to regulate you on a federal level. They just want to decide which things get enforced/funded, and which should be left to the states/community/church, or what they really mean, nothing.
They want to control you on everything.
That’s not enough butter for that, that’s too much gay for this. They never wanted small government. They always wanted big government with the exact same ideals they have.
“You have too much pep in your step! 5 lashings for you!”
I’m sorry, pep is now regulated by gender and age. Oh, and if you’re young enough, please see the pastor or congressman in his office.
Republicans love big government, they just want the same or more power concentrated amongst less people. They’re all about that shit.
So people better understand: Pornhub did not get banned by law. There is a law that requires porn sites to verify age with IDs in many southern states. Instead of complying Pornhub location banned themselves.
You left the most important part out; why is PornHub not complying? Understanding the situation requires knowing the very real concerns about privacy and data security as compliance requires keeping copies of IDs on file for verification.
IOW: Pornhub refuses to attempt to secure the PII of everyone who wants to visit the site. It’s not within their scope and any website that agrees to do this bullshit is suspect as fuck.
Afaik Pornhub is based in Québec, which has data privacy/protection laws through law 25 (French, will need to translate it). I’ve had some experience with it on some projects in the last few years, would not surprise me if that was contributing to the decision as well. I’m assuming they would still need to adhere to law 25 and whatever local laws in locations they operate in, could totally be wrong there.
Poilievre has stated he wants to introduce the same age verification laws, so it will be interesting to see how Pornhub reacts to those laws once they are introduced especially since they’re based in Québec like you said.
Personally, I’ve been stocking up, because you never know when there’s going to be a drought and it always helps to be prepared in life. I think we are in for some very dark years ahead of us.
It’s hilarious to me that you’re stocking up porn for the dark times 😂
Well I mean you gotta do what you gotta do, you never know what the future will look like lol
I think it’s just the tip of the iceberg unfortunately lol
It’s crazy these states want a prono site to to maintain thousands of personal IDs 💀
Especially for something socially embarrassing. That’s just building a blackmail database. Sure, porn use isn’t going to significantly compromise a lot of people, but for some that could end marriages and careers.
Particularly if one were to stray out of the heterosexual category. I wouldn’t put it past any of those states.
This rule is a trap. They are supposed to do it but there is no way to do this reliably (not even mentioning privacy issues).
I work for municipal government in Texas and I’m not allowed to write down or take a picture of someone’s DL number or date of birth, which is a bitch when we’re trying to cite a contractor named Jose Gonzales for illegal construction.
giving a scan of your ID to the shadiest people on the web doesn’t seem a smart idea.
also: it’s not impossible for little jimmy to get a copy of his dad driving license…
honestly that’s based as fuck. I wouldn’t think the largest porn website would have the ethics to lose out on that much money.
Picture conservative white southern men who never got their GED trying to frantically Google what a VPN is, because they’re missing their interracial porn before the Klan meeting that night.
Interracial gay porn. FTFY
Probably with femboys too
Furry interracial minor femboy porn. We all know all of that is popular with conservatives.
They won’t have public issues for them being a minor, that’s just expected at this point.
“Boy, I hope nobody finds out that I’m really just attracted to feminine aesthetics. They might make fun of me.”
Others have mentioned already - the issue here isn’t porn sites being banned, but states mandating age verification and the privacy concerns related to that verification.
I’m not sure I even care about an age limit being enforced for pornography, but doing so will necessitate de-anonymizing internet traffic (further) and make private browsing less feasible. There are other laws being proposed that would require personal identity verification on social media sites, too, and that would be the death of lemmy and any other anonymous shitposting sites that are left.
Regardless of any shitposting, just being forced to hand your ID docs to your Facebooks, Reddits, Twitters, etc with their track record of processing data is not an attractive proposition.
Yeah i am not letting PH verify my ID just to view porn. I dont trust it and i feel it violates my privacy.
PH agrees, they aren’t checking IDs, they are suspending access to states that have those laws.
but doing so will necessitate de-anonymizing internet traffic
It’s always funny how people from the mass surveillance and selling intelligence data lobbies suddenly rush to finance and support this sort of political virtue signalling when it looks like it can gather support, even in the EU where they are going as far as to propoe of getting rid of end-to-end encryption.
even in the EU where they are going as far as to propoe of getting rid of end-to-end encryption.
And Australia.
I guess the South is going to have a harder time rising now.
Welp. back to working on them thar siblings and relatives then.
The party of small government
So small it fits in your bedroom
The Red States are turning into the fucking PRC. Carry on…
I wish, I’d move there if they had half the benefits they do in the PRC. Universal healthcare, maternity leave, sick leave of multiple months, unions in all companies, workers councils in all corporations, rent controls, price controls… man, please let your comment come true.
I’d move there if they had half the benefits they do in the PRC. Universal healthcare,
Taiwan has universal healthcare. China has a crappy employer based health care system.
BTW, they have their own challenges some not dislike the USA, all countries do. Just be careful and stay sane!
This and no need to keeo up with the news becase who gives a fuck as you can’t vote anyway, just goon, play games and work :)
Oh and they have great trains.
play games
All’s fun and games until your opponent messages “Tiananmen Square 1989 Winnie the Pooh”
Hahahaha
Oh shit you’re serious.
.ml users have hilarious takes until you realize they actually think that way.
PRC?
Porn of the Republic of China.
The People’s Republic of China
China
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Too bad there aren’t other porn sites with massive libraries of content that apparently no one in power has noticed.
The states aren’t banning PornHub from being accessed there, PornHub are blocking themselves from being accessed from those states so as to not need to comply with new state laws requiring ID proof of age to access because they don’t want to handle personally identifying information of end users. So basically you’re just waiting for law enforcement to notice and charge them, and then find out if they’re run out of somewhere the state can reasonably do anything about it.
I’m really sorry that you have to live in Indiana.
Love, an Illinoisian.
As a former Illinoisian, I’m sorry you live in Illinois.
Love, a Minnesotan.
Minnesota is sweet but Michiganders feel sorry for both of us
I won’t for too much longer, thankfully. Or the U.S. at all.
Congrats, where are you headed?
Thanks. The UK. I’m lucky in that I have dual citizenship. I can’t go until I get a job, but I’m hopeful I’ll get one before the end of the month.
maybe add a note that the link is nsfw
I think you just added that note. I thought it was way too obvious to be necessary.
since you said porn sites (plural), i would have assumed it was a link to an article about the topic. e.g., an article saying something like “anti porn laws infringe on people’s right to privacy and don’t actually stop people from viewing porn”.
Lol, that sounds like a hastily made up lie from someone who just got caught looking at porn.
“I thought it was an aggregate website! It’s an honest mistake!”
“I thought it was a porn aggregator” is an interesting defense.
So Tumbler and Instagram when they first started out?
“I wasn’t watching porn while at work, I was looking up where to find porn to watch while at work!”
i didn’t click the link, it was just what i assumed given that i’ve seen lots of people post news articles in the comment section and have never seen someone post a link to a porn site in the comment section.
Lol I was about to click on the link before I read this. Thanks fren. At work rn now so that would’ve been bad.
The Pirate Bay will always be with us.
You shouldn’t post things like this, what if people went and looked at that link and got around the porn hub ban? We wouldn’t want that
Thought you’d already skipped across the pond?
No, I can’t go without a job. I have to be making over £22,000 a year domestically to get a family visa for my wife and kid and I also don’t particularly want to have to rely on the meagre savings and what we’ll get from selling my car to survive on first. But I am very optimistic about getting one by the end of the month based on responses so far. I can hop on a plane and go tomorrow if I need to now that I have my passport. That was the big holdup before.
I hope all goes well for you. I’ve been working on German dual citizenship, myself.
Thanks and good luck. I’m guessing that’s a lot harder to get.
That’s because all this is just pretence government. Now they can say “see? We’re blocking that evil porn!”, that’s all
Bookmarked for future reference🙏
So… wait. How will conservatives watch all their sister porn now?
Like any god fearing christian; by asking her first.
They would need to learn the meaning of consent first…
by peeping through the blinds.
Remove the word porn and you probably have the answer.
This is asinine, even when internet access to porn didn’t exist people had so much porn, and they’ll continue to get it. All this does is shift the business elsewhere.
Yeah pornhub seems pretty legitimate and safe these days.
All these bans do is force people to go to sketchier websites which don’t have as thorough vetting process for their videos and likely have a lot more illegal / harmful content.
Or VPN
The secret cabal of lobbyists actually responsible for the bans.
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/s, in case it was really necessary
If it wasn’t for the level of utter incompetence and technophobia that politicians seem to radiate I would have genuinely bought into this idea. But there’s no way they would actually be bright enough to work a scheme like this out.
I don’t actually buy into the idea, but to play devil’s advocate a little more, the politicians don’t need to “be bright enough to work a scheme like this out”. The vpn industry lobbyists just need to tell them “hey it’d be really great if you banned porn: here’s a bill we wrote that you could use”, and then the pollies just need to go “yeah, sounds good.”
Yeah pornhub seems pretty legitimate and safe these days.
Yeah, they got threatened a few years ago with essentially banking cutting them off if they didn’t make a concerted effort to purge anything shady, which they achieved by purging basically all end-user uploads that weren’t verified models or studios.
It highlights that their elected officials are messing with something they like. It is also a lot safer for the business to block a geographic area than deal with PII.
If they operate in those states they need to obtain proof of age. I don’t exactly know how that works, since I haven’t had to do it, but I imagine it is something like uploading a driver’s license picture. If you have all that personal information you have to protect it, or risk information disclosure and lawsuits. A porn favorites list and personal identity info together in the same system is just asking to be hacked.
It would be a great time to be a VPN company right now.
Edit: On second thoughts, this is great, because it normalizes VPN usage too
Not for long, with Net Neutrality forever murdered yesterday, ISPs will soon be blocking VPNs with aplomb and pushing their own. The whole Internet will become airplane WiFi.
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And you thought DMCA notices were annoying!
You don’t think it would be simpler to just use one of the fifty thousand other free sites?
A lot of the other free sites are blocking users also
Honestly? Probably not. Pornhub is far and away the best porn site out there in terms of selection, ease of use, speed, and most importantly, they have the least annoying ads of any porn site I’ve ever been to. Other porn sites really don’t even come close
And yet when we pointed out that Project 2025 talked about banning porn, a lot of people didn’t think it was serious. This is just one way that such an idea can play out.
I don’t think porn could ever be fully banned - prohibition doesn’t work. (Besides, I already made a promise to create erotic art specifically in order to spite any such enacted law.) But considering how modern porn and its variety has enabled many people to acquire niche preferences, this is still going to trigger a challenging time for a lot of people.
If this plays out like it’s played out in other countries the only people who will actually be prevented from accessing pornography will be lawmakers, because they’ll be the only people not tech savvy enough to be able to circumvent the restrictions.
They’ll just offer their nephew some robux and a job in state legislature in exchange for a couple felonies
Would you like to share any of your art?
Yis, share art.
e621 was blocked in my state and… then they realized the law wasn’t being enforced and unblocked themselves
Maaan, you just made me look up what that was 😭
Bro this is on you, you had enough context clues to know this wasn’t worth pursuing
I know, just curious.
LMAO
