You must log in or register to comment.
TBH, I don’t blame her in the least. It’s hard enough for men. I can’t imagine what it must be like for women to endure misogyny on top of what men go through in STEM.
If you’ve got it, flaunt it.
I hope she manages to set up an irrevocable trust that guarantees steady income for the rest of her life so someday she can quit sex work and just pursue art or something if she wants
Hell, maybe it’ll turn out that sex work is her art and that is ok too
Good for her but I can’t help but feel envious that paths and choices like this are basically exclusively only available to the opposite sex
you could argue that men have similar exclusive, lucrative paths that use their strength/athleticism and are also probably statistically similar rates of exclusivity within their sex. Like, not everyone will be a professional footballer just like not every onlyfans model makes livable income.
Not to mention, it’s definitely possible for men to have successful careers in sex work. I expect there are far fewer successful men in sex work, and they probably need to be ok with having a mostly male clientele. But it’s still possible.
The mean earnings for OF is $150/month. Meaning it’s likely there’s a vast majority of people earning $50-100/month, and a vast minority earning $100k/month.
With props, camera, lighting, editing “costuming” etc, you probably lose money doing it.
it isn’t. there’s a lot of male OF models too, although their fans are probably mostly gay men. good news is, unlike performers from before online videos took off, you don’t really have to be “gay for pay”. OF models can get away with doing solo work as well.
Blame that on men being the only people willing to pay for it.
That said there’s plenty of gay men out there willing to buy pictures of your ding dong if it’s photogenic enough.
Sex work is performance art.
But my Puritan beliefs are more important than her well being!!!
/s
I’ve done cursory research on this person, and my understanding is that she claims she will still be teaching science but only wearing sexy tops on. I don’t know how truthful that is but even some Olympic athletes said they are in Only fans but “only being sexy without showing”, in order to supplement their income. I don’t really fault people for this considering the worsening cost of living crisis.
The problem with sex work under capitalism isn’t the worker, but the capitalism.
This times several billion
Minus the “sex” part of “sex work under capitalism”
Sex work is real work. When we sufficiently progress as a species the concept itself will become incomprehensible because survival sex will become incomprehensible.
I just mean that the problem with all work under capitalism is the capitalism part.
Fair
What was the problem with it under feudalism?
The feudalism…
^
This is… so inefficient.
She could have become an engineer (or whatever she wants), made videos about it, and made a big difference in many people’s lives, and had whatever personal life she wanted. Instead, she’s producing ‘entertainment’ that’s been replicated a bajillion times.
I an happy for her personally, but this is such a loss to society and a huge ding against the education/work pipeline. I assume she would’ve rather gone into her chosen field if it wasn’t such a miserable grind. If it isn’t ‘worth the hardship’ for someone so brilliant, hardworking, charismatic, and everything to go into STEM, then the system she’s in is completely busted.
If it’s such a loss to society, perhaps something should be done about society’s economic structure and how it partitions rewards. Rather than throwing shade on someone for making an economically advantageous decision.
When has anything ever worked that way?
Absolutely never
Especially with that attitude
I googled this story to, uh, fact check it, and found this article saying that her move to OF is fake news. Except, upon closer examination, it seems the article is AI slop and completely made up. How ironic.
So I’m reading this debunking, and
Zara smartly leveraged the viral moment to confront the misinformation head-on and promote her YouTube channel, where her actual content lies.
So I go to her YouTube channel https://youtube.com/@zara-dar and,
Description
STEM Gal and Model Austin, Texas.Message me:
https://ZaraDarz.comMost recent video is https://youtu.be/_uEG0H4RXcA where she says she is making an OnlyFans (I’m not going to watch the full 10 minutes so unless this is an elaborate prank that’s revealed in the end…)
Go to https://ZaraDarz.com which is listed as her website on her YouTube channel
STEM Gal | PhD Dropout | OnlyFans model
Go to the OnlyFans link https://onlyfans.com/zaradar/c3
If you are a sapiosexual, this page is for you 😉 (Please click “more info” below 🥹)
Texas-born and bred, engineer, Ph.D. dropout, and YouTuber. I’m a nerd with a passion for art, fitness, and reading.
On this page, I share with you my artistically and beautifully curated exclusive content which includes a level of nudity and my love for erotica 📸. I love pushing my boundaries with you 😉.
Also this Instagram page links to her website (the one mentioned on her YouTube) and is from at least as far back as December 2022 https://www.instagram.com/zara.darz/ which also mentions she is a 🌶️ Content Creator and links to an exclusive invite only Instagram page.
And I’m just rereading your comment and seeing that you said the debunk article is AI slop, I thought you were saying that article called others AI slop lmao.
Well, if anyone else misreads it they can also see this too now lol.
CapITAlisM iS thE BeST sysTEm wE HAve! SOCialIsM doeSNt woRK!
Capitalism is a completely inefficient and unsustainable grift based on serving privileged white wieners.
Plenty of Chinese, black, south american weiners.
There is no need to bring in race and divide us. We’re all getting fucked by the 1% regardless of skin color.
I watched the video and it is very convincing and honestly true on many levels. If you can earn much better money from being your own boss then why would you want to spend time with those assholes at work for less?
I am doing it myself just not as successful and not porn because I like privacy.
There is something strange about her and this whole thing though. I can’t help to think it’s all some kind of stunt or AI person idk. Something is uncanny. Maybe it is just the autism that radiates from her that throws me off and looks like AI.
We live in the times when it is increasingly hard to tell what is real. And also honestly if she was compsci phd and machine learning expert at this level 1 million is nothing vs what potentially she could make right now with that background and shrewd. There’s so much money in this right now, you just don’t drop to do porn when we have second internet revolution for better or worse. Something doesn’t add up.
If I had to guess, I’d say her OF gig is far from a full time job. So she still has time to spare to work on what she enjoys, and the capital to start an actual business down the road.
She probably gets treated more respectfully by her OnlyFans viewers than her co-workers in her PhD program.
Have you never seen the insanity that is reddit’s porn section?
And thats how “respectful” they act when they’re Not paying for it.
Try going to an “AI” conference as a woman sometime.
Grift and misogyny go hand-in-hand.
Thats because everyone at an AI conference is going to be managment or sales.
E.G. Salesforce has Two conferences every year. The dev one and the sales one. The dev one deals with legitimate development of Salesforce and new tooling. The sales one pushes AI on the unwitting.
Some of the comments you see on posts of young women announcing they’re “barely legal” and in the comments you’ve got >45 year old men saying what they’ll do.
It’s just so creepy and unsettling.
Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?
45 year old men making gross propositions is not at all unusual. And often those are the people deciding whether you have a professional future.
Just STEM in general. My wife almost left her engineering program because harassment came from the male students as well as the male professors. The handful of women in my engineering school all hung out together and moved as one. Strength in numbers and all that. It was really shit for them. Dudes would just yell “omg girls here???” anytime they walked into like any class. Some profs too.
Have you ever talked with a woman about her experience working in STEM academia?
I can’t say that I have and my comment was in no way meant to that it doesn’t happen to them.
That’s what we invented cancel-culture for, isn’t it?
That doesn’t apply when you’re a PhD student and your supervisor is the tenured department head. You can try blowing everything up to pursue a sexual harassment case but that’s gonna be the end of your PhD.
gonewild and associate subs have been showing lots lots of admiration and body positivity for amateur posters.
However, eventually all those subs turned into an onlyfans advertising platform, so maybe then the mood got spoiled.
Previously it was unpaid art for unpaid audience, and was almost unbelievably wholesome.
Capitalism doing the thing.
To me seems like individual humans decided that they want something in return for their nudity. Nobody forced them into that decision.
100%. Only real academics will appreciate this comment.
I personally never understood dropping out when something like this happeneds. Like bro now you got the money to have the degree and not worry about paying it off. Might as well have it just to have it
A science PhD is fucking grueling.
And OnlyFans job is grueling fucking? 🤔
Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson helped me feel like a jock in Calculus.
That is one of the funniest things I have seen in a very long time!
“Do I look like Feynman” is my favorite bit. Starting and ending with “fucking Bessel functions” is also very poetic.
Now I’m reading about Bessel functions on my weekend… how dare you.
Simple man me detrackers then clicks 🤗
Wdym?
Google is really shady. So whenever we use the share button on YouTube, they add a code to the end of the link that offers no benefit to us, but allows Google to tie your machine as source who shared the link that others click on. When you look at the link that you posted, you’ll see the letters SI in it and after that, you see the tracker.
To work around this, on desktop, you can copy the link from the address bar, which won’t include the code. Also, Firefox has a feature to copy links without trackers in them, because the practice is pervasive. On mobile, I would recommend just backspacing the junk in hopes of protecting your privacy a tiny bit.
I see. I didn’t realize that I had sent a link with trackers. Thanks for pointing it out!
As someone who didnt even pass their first year and dropped out, mind explaining whats involved in a PHD and why science ones are so grueling?
It’s basically just working for 6 years for not much pay while your friends who got jobs right out of undergrad are making at 3-5x as much.
Not only that, but all the political game involved in the academia is mental.
And the work-life balance is atrocious.
When I started, my advisor told me to not think of myself as an employee, but as a “researcher”. IE I don’t get to clock out, my life revolved around learning/reseaching
But having the PHD makes up for it after right?
Generally no if we consider it from a financial perspective. Whether or not it’s worth it on an emotional level is very individual
I work in engineering with a masters, and I make more than people with only a bachelors. However, even with the masters pay bump I am unlikely to ever make enough extra money to make up for the financial losses I incurred in getting the graduate degree. It’s only “worth it” financially if you work full time and have your company pay for the degree.
PHDs make about the same amount of money and get about the same positions as someone with an only Masters. You get a PHD because you love studying and research enough to basically give up half of a decade of your life.
I considered getting a PHD until I realized that >50% of the PHD students and graduates I spoke to described it as, “6 years of my life I’ll never get back”.
😢😔
It really depends on the field. In some areas PhDs make less than bachelors.
That’s what they say but I haven’t finished mine yet so I can only hope
Me earlier in the thread
They drop out so they can do the other thing full time instead of part time…
Especially because it’s porn. Gotta make as much money now while she can
Yeah, can always go back to school when you age out at 25…
DiCaprioSquinting.jpeg
Academia is misogynist enough without an OF account. She’s leaving a shitty job not just a low paying job.
With 2m instead properly you won’t have to work another day in your life, with 1m you won’t either but you might not be able to live in the buffet cities.
Give me 1m and I’m retiring tomorrow.
How old are you and where do you live that you think thats enough to retire comfortably?
We were talking about winning the lotto at work once and I said with a million dollars I would probably quit if I could earn 5% interest on it to get 50k a year. My boss was like, that’s not enough you have to think about daycare and mortgage and car payments and everything. I then reminded him that I was currently making 30k a year. He stopped talking very quickly lol.
They said invested, not ‘put in a checking account and drawn down’. Even 5% returns would be 50k annually, which is already more than the median individual income. Actual return on the S&P 500 for the last 25 years has been around 8%.
50k us is about what I make now and I’m in the suburbs.
Invested safely that’s what I would make with 1m, with 2m I’m having the time of my life.
I could have lived off that at any age as I’m currently making the most I’ve ever made by about 6k compared to my previous job…
The thing you may be forgetting to account for is inflation. 50k a year means your drawing the whole profit annually and in 10 or 20 years suddenly 50k is not enough to live on. You need enough in the fund to ensure it’s making more money than you spend so it can grow YoY and make more each year to cover inflation.
Additionally, if you are not working you are paying 100% out of pocket for insurance. One health incident draws your savings below the amount you need to live off of.
Right now they say not to retire at 60 unless you fully own your property and have over a million in your 401k. And that’s accounting for taking a loss to your social security payments past 67 due to early withdrawal and for out of pocket health insurance costs. If you are younger you need even more.
Insurance is a non issue for me, I used 50k USD as an example because it’s pretty close to what I make in CAD.
With 50k I can pay my mortgage and be mortgage free in less than 20 years then I need way less than 50k to live, that’s also something people don’t take into consideration, once you’ve paid you’re debts and you just have to pay for food and taxes you’re left with way more than you’re used to. That’s not even taking into consideration the fact that you pay less taxes on capital gain in a lot of countries, so 50k in salary =/= 50k in capital gains!
We’re in the process of buying a house based on my income alone, we’ll probably have refunded the 250k loan in 15 years tops, probably 12, then we start stacking to retire ASAP.
Buffet cities? Every city I know has at least one buffet.
Cicis pizza cities only
Bigger, swipe typing does that sometimes 🤪
In some ways I understand it though. I’m sure the pecking order and bragging rights of being one of the only fans people that makes enough money to classify yourself in like the top 5% of income earners in America is probably more thrilling and exciting than having a PhD.
Plus, if she’s going for her PhD she probably already has her master’s degree so it’s not like she gave up academia entirely without getting anything from it.
That being said, I still agree with you. If you were close enough to be in the program you might as well just finish it off. What’s it going to do, stop you from posting your photos on only fans?
Uhh…do you people know anybody who’s been through a phd program? How would you rate their happiness from 1 to 10 while they were mid-phd program?
If that crap isn’t going to deliver them the world, it’s gonna be a reeeeeal hard sell to get em to put up with it.
This. I dropped out of my computer science PhD to start at the bottom of the industry in my early thirties.
If you don’t have a clear love of academia, a PhD is a clearly unrewarding slog.
And if you can earn a million each year as an alternative, why wouldn’t you go for it? I love science, but we live in a real world, not in a dream, and this real world decided that science wouldn’t be rewarding.
I know right? Imagine how much more a doctor could charge for sexy pics.
deleted by creator
Step one to becoming an Onlyfans star … be young
Step two to becoming an Onlyfans star … have natural beauty
I’m 0-2. 😭
Welcome to the Old Ugly Fuck Club
Old-Ugly Fuck club or Old Ugly-Fuck club.
That hyphen makes a difference.
Ah yes … the first schism to our new group
Didn’t they tell you the first rule of old ugly fuck club?
That … that … we’re actually beautiful inside?
No, you can still be fugly on the inside. These are separate and the lack of one doesn’t imply anything about the other. You might be able to fix one of them, though… ask a plastic surgeon.
Not to worry then, OnlyBogans is for you! Sign up today and make fuck all!
Hey! Maybe we can add and become a 3
Step three: Be incredibly lucky…
Lilly Allen is on onlyfans and makes more money than her Spotify streams. She only post feet pics so there’s that.
Good for her! I’m sure it’s not easy to achieve that kind of success on OnlyFans, so clearly she made some smart moves to get where she is.
/s?
No, no sarcasm. The vast majority of OnlyFans creators barely make any money. This woman did something smart to achieve success.
I guess it depends on how easy you can be discovered. It’s easy to take off your clothes and get people to pay you to do it, but if you’re in a sea of 1000s of women doing the same thing are you seen?
Same thing with being a YouTuber. Anyone can create a channel. It’s hard to make that channel worth something.
I’m sure “working hard” is way more important than being attractive on a platform where people pay to watch attractive women naked. Oh, wait…
Being attractive is a prerequisite, but not enough. There’s a lot of attractive women, not all of them make 1 mio. on OF.
Being successful anywhere requires hard work. You can be born into money, but you’ll have to work a lot to be a success yourself, not just a nobody with a lot of money coming from those that were successful. You can be born attractive (and that’s subjective anyway, people have a lot of different tastes and kinks) and without hard work, it’ll not be worth anything.
No idea why you are being so patronizing and dismissive. Either you are bitter and lashing out, or you need a little bit more perspective and general empathy, as in capability to see the world not only from your personal point of view, and the capability to process that, too.
This reads like a typical white knight comment one might find on reddit. Lemmy is getting more and more disappointing every day.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
For someone who doesn’t have anything to discuss, you do have an awful lot to say and keep repeating. Suit yourself.
I do have something to discuss. If you prefer to ignore my point then what can I say. Suit yourself.
If you really believe that a person that makes 1M on OF “deserves” that money and did “hard work” then I don’t really think there’s anything we can discuss.
Someone sounds a little jelly. Seriously though, there are all kinds of people making way more money than that without doing a damn thing to justify a penny of it. The Internet allows niche means of making money simply because you can “sell” your products to thousands or even millions of people–in this case directly from the comfort of her home. There are plenty of other schemes out there that can be similarly lucrative if you’re good at what they want you to do.
Clearly this woman is quite smart to be in that field in the first place, why wouldn’t she take the more lucrative route? Wouldn’t you?
Not jealous at all, just disappointed I guess. I just can’t congratulate a person that had the skill/luck/whatever to get 1M with a minimum effort and they then decide to drop out of a job that could actually contribute something to society to do the banal and functionally useless job full time. It’s incredibly wasteful.
Also no, I wouldn’t go for the “lucrative” route if I already have more than enough money.
Finally, I have several friends that are phd students and you don’t have to be super smart to do that. You do need dedication though. But the same can be said for quite a few lines of work.
OnlyFans is suspicious af considering it’s not blocked in US states with porn bans. Some weird small group of people did a lot of hard work to effectively create a monopoly over porn in some U.S. states, users and creators should beware. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these onlyfans contents are marketing pieces.
As far as I understand it, the “porn bans” are actually laws that force strict ID requirements, not literally banning porn. (I’m not trying to debate whether they’re effectively porn bans, I’d agree they are.) So sites that are paid access only probably have an easier time proving they don’t let minors in.
Right, shifting the younger populations to the past of least resistance, and helping them form parasocial relationships which may be hard to break. Getting them while they’re young, so to speak.
Except you need to be over 18, and it’s easy to verify this if you’re paying with a credit card.
Besides, what teenager can’t figure out how to use a vpn?
It’s not suspicious really. They apparently don’t operate in Florida due to those ID laws. It’s more so just that the states have targeted PornHub specifically for their bans to start with and since PH is owned by a conglomerate of sites similar to them, it’s affected many of those sites. Smaller sites remain unaffected often times.
Seen half a dozen posts like this recently. Always screams misogynistic outrage bait to me.
I’m fairly convinced posts like this are sponsored by these platforms to trick young women into joining, as they need an endless supply of new “content” when people get bored of the popular models. That fetish site “Feet Finder” did that a lot, they sponsored tens of thousands of TikTok creators to pretend they got rich selling their feet pictures, when in reality, the people joining the platform were never paid.
Yeah, the money those few lucky ones make is chicken shit compared to what the platform owner makes.
My partner was in the top
99%1% of performers on onlyfans for several years (according to onlyfans’ metrics, which actually are surprisingly accurate since it involves reporting financial information). At the peak she was making about $150/month. It really drove home that the number of people who actually make any substantial amount of money on any platform like this is shockingly low.You probably meant top 1%.
Sigh… No, I actually meant to write 99th percentile. Which is also wrong, and is entirely symptomatic of me being ‘an idiot’. (Ty for pointing this out)
Seize the means of porn production!
The owner is a billionaire, so literally 1000x as much as her.
Especially since it isn’t true.
deleted by creator
This is actually sad to see.
“An advocate of women in science until recently” makes you think what really are their priorities.
I looked more into that.
She did an interview in which she said that she did not like the academia Life but wants to focus on her social media career, which includes of, but also a YouTube channel where she published science related videos
So still doing science stuff, but not pursuing a PhD anymore.
academia is toxic for everyone, but especially for women, and especially in STEM
The stories my female doctor friend tells me about treatment from male colleagues or female superiors is freaking rage-inducing. But 99% of the time she can’t do shit about it because she’ll be ostracized or risk her job, or in the past risk residency or placements. It suuuucks.
6 downvotes from people going “not from me, I treat bitches nicely”.
/r/niceguys poster boys who got banned from reddit
That one impotent downvote you’ve gotten really underscores your point…
??? everyone’s priority is money. obviously. how is this a shock?
Have you never heard of scientists or artists? Lots of people prioritize passion over money.
I know many many artists, and none of them would resist an offer to do what they’re passionate about in exchange for lots of money. Or to do what they’re not very passionate about in exchange for lots of money. Or even something they downright hate doing, in exchange for lots of money. Having lots of money means you can invest in those things you are passionate about.
And yet, lots of people choose not to do what they hate for money. Obviously, if you can get paid well for doing what you love is a win-win, but the point of my argument is that a lot of people don’t really care about money, beyond having enough to get by.
that’s crazy. Have yet to see this in reality.
Hi. Plenty of people go for “enough to pay the bills (but contributing to society/enjoyable)” over “the most I could make,” myself included
I hope my daughter gets to look up to women established in STEM fields.
Seems like a busted world where there’s more money in sex work than academia.
deleted by creator
It’s just one woman. She doesn’t represent whatever “they” you are refering to because there are a lot more women who don’t take this path.
